Discussion in 'General Education' started by AmyMyNamey, May 4, 2017.
May 5, 2017
Honestly, family finances willing, I would homeschool.
I would send my daughter to the district I work in. I think the district she is in now is better, but wouldn't mind her being here.
I honestly don't know how I feel about homeschooling. Some of the kids I've seen that have gone through it are some of the best mannered, most intelligent kids I've known, though they are far more susceptible to their parents' misconceptions and ideas.
Others have been complete a-holes. I guess it depends on the parent doing the teaching. In addition to that, I'd worry that my kid wouldn't be getting enough social interaction. And I can imagine really cool homeschooling lessons, like developing a whole outdoor homeschool curriculum or bringing in experts or really cool field trips, but I figure it wouldn't ever be as cool as it looks in my imagination.
Homeschooling is fairly popular in my area and I have only seen good things. It's not like the kids don't interact with other kids in every other facet of life. Plus my state requires registration and standards.
I also think some kids are going to be odd ducks no matter how they're educated.
Yes and no. The district we live in is a good district, however, they do not have the Dual Enrollment and Vo-tech opportunities that my district has. So, it will be very dependent on how I feel about his middle school experiences and what is developing at the high school. Things are in transition at my home district and my work district, so time will tell.
I don't have children. If I did, though, I wouldn't send them to the school I work at. With regard to test scores, we're the lowest in the county and a large number of my students deal with gang violence in the neighborhood, parents who are in/out of the picture due to being incarcerated (often raised by grandparents), and poverty/homelessness. I absolutely love working here because I truly feel like I'm making a difference; however, this isn't the place I'd want my family members to go to school.
I would most likely send them to the school that's down the street from my parents' house (same district that I work in...across town, though) so they could assist with pick up/drop off/after school care. Thankfully, they're both retired folks!
That's true. I don't have children, so I don't know much about the other socialization opportunities outside of school, but I guess if you have them do some extra-currics they'd meet others.
As for the odd-duck kids, I don't know. In my (frankly anecdotal) experience, I've only ever seen two extremes of homeschool kids: the really awesome ones, and the really terrible ones. I've rarely met any that were in between those two extremes, and I don't know if it's because these kids are less likely to succeed or enjoy life in public education (because it's not challenging enough, or public school kids are too ill-mannered for them, so they want to leave, or because they exhibit extreme social issues when around public school kids or they're getting bullied) so their parents choose to homeschool them, or if it's because their parents homeschooled them that they have those personalities. Not trying to make any judgments, just observations and questions.
May 7, 2017
FWIW, my P sends his kids to where we work, but with cuts coming, P said he and his family might move elsewhere.
I would send my kids to my current school, easily. It's not without its problems but there's good leadership in place and realistic goals for moving things forward. I would not send them to the school I worked at before this. The teachers are awesome and they work their assess off, but there are so many behavior problems and, as of last year at least, so much administrator turnover. Discipline is always in flux and the school moves from method to method so fast - every administrator wants to come in and start fresh - that nothing ever really gets a chance to stick. Their learning would be far too disrupted by kids around them.
So many families homeschool now that it's pretty easy to find a community, ensuring that your kids have some socialization. My brother homeschools his kids and they belong to a homeschool co-op. They get together with other families for field trips and extra-curriculars, they go to tutoring where they work with other adults and groups of kids. My brother is actually in the middle of starting up a robotics team consisting of local homeschoolers and I guess they can compete in all the same competitions public school teams can. And then they do the normal extra-curriculars like church group, scouts, dance, etc. I have three nieces and a nephew (all siblings) who were homeschooled until 9th grade and then they went to a private high school. They were the first homeschoolers I ever met and it really changed how I thought about homeschooling because they're sweet, social, smart kids. As adults they've proven to be really awesome open-minded people, curious and engaged in the world around them, and they've worked and traveled all over the world. They pretty much all credit the tailored-to-them, non-traditional education they got growing up. I have mixed feelings about whether I'd ever try it myself, and as you said, it really, REALLY depends on the family, but I've definitely seen it work.
I have less of a problem with the teachers than the students and administrators. I've worked at schools labeled the worst in the city, but in fact had great teachers tasked with the impossible.
It's the kids I deal with. I do not want my own young children around them. Making matters worse are the administrators who are so afraid of a complaint or accusation that they allow the animals to run the zoo. While the lack of discipline paints a false image of fewer discipline issues (only on paper, because most issues aren't documented), it makes teaching in this school all but impossible. Actually, many find it impossible and just quit.
I understand the way the system is gamed to put good teachers at an outrageous disadvantage, and I'd think long and hard before blaming a school's problems on its teachers.
I work in one of the worst districts in the state.
My fiance & I already discussed that if we are still living in this area when we have kids, they're going to private school.
Not if I could help it!!! Not a fan of the admin, test scores are awful, and there's too many students with too many things going on. There are some fantastic teachers at my school, a few I would love to have as my (non existent) children's teachers, but even with those fantastic teachers, there's still too many other students they have to deal with every day. I would feel like my children weren't getting everything they could. (I'm also just assuming my kids wouldn't be "those" kids...)
With that said, the first school I worked at was a really "good" school. It was in a HUGE district though, so it would have depended on the school we were zoned for. I just think about the grade levels, and there are a few who I wouldn't really be thrilled with any of the teachers teaching my kid. For example, when I taught fourth there, there was one other teacher who I would feel good about having my kid in that class. That teacher left when I did, and I know they replacement. The whole fourth grade team now is made of "pinterest" teachers. Really cute stuff, not a lot of quality. First grade was another where I would have felt eh at best with any of the teachers.
Here's another angle. I went to a school where my mother was responsible for HR. It definitely was a good experience. We carpooled. Teachers took special notice of me. It also means that I can't skip out class, can't get out of homework assignment, and bad test results went instantly to my mom's desk.
looking bad, it's definitely a good experience. Hard to make friends though.
May 8, 2017
May 10, 2017
No. I just had an administrator say this 2 weeks ago and it is the general consensus. That being said, many teachers in my district do not send their kids to our schools especially once they get to HS.
May 11, 2017
I would never have transferred my students out of our neighbourhood school, but I wouldn't have hesitated to have them at any school I have taught at.
This really is a great question, one that should be on a school climate survey. However, I would definitely not let my kids attend my school. Majority of my student are impoverished minorities but that is not the reason. My issue is that our administrations expectations for our students could hardly get any lower. We have an opportunity to address some of the things the students do not get from home and instead we “fail them forward” and do not provide adequate skills for their post-secondary endeavors.
Yes - definitely. While I love teaching, and would love to spend more time with my child, I know I can have an impact on a full class of students while my child would still be receiving a great education. Plus, I think it's important for my (eventual, I guess I should say...ha) child to see a variety of perspectives, mindsets, and styles of teaching.
It is so sad to me to see how many of us work at schools where we would never send our own kids. That says a lot about the state of things and how little support our schools are getting/what a low priority our public schools are. It's a downward spiral, too -- once a school starts to suffer, the families who can, send their kids elsewhere, taking their support and influence with them. And I don't blame them -- I think the problem goes all the way to the core of our society and its priorities.
It's also interesting to see how many of us find fault with the admins as opposed to the teachers or kids themselves. Teachers are under so much pressure and scrutiny -- but who evaluates the administrators? Why don't admins get scorecards like their schools do? Why don't they get put on "improvement plans" if they are failing at their jobs? I think this is the part of the puzzle that is missing in all the talk of school reform -- the public points fingers at the teachers but not at those who are supposed to lead and train the teachers.
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