Why shortened time on Math CSETs?

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  1. rapple

    rapple Rookie

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    As a recent taker of the CSET Subtest II in Geometry/Statistics, I must say that the two hour time limit was much more challenging than expected. I have taken the Multi-Subject CSETs and passed so I knew the format. Just didn't expect the essays to take 30 minutes of my time. I will not specify as per CSET rules, but the Statistic's essay was quite a process for me and I've completed two levels of College Statistics. The three geometric proofs were not extremely taxing but they did require time as I wanted breadth and depth in my response.

    So, I was left with 90 minutes to complete 30 MC questions and many of those problems required much more than 3 minutes to complete - especially the ellipse/hyperbola, hemisphere questions.

    If I had taken these Math CSETs on paper as previous takers, I would have spread them out and utilized the full 5 hours for each section. With the new computer format, this is not an option. I have my serious doubts that I passed due to the time constraints.

    My CSET prep: enrolled and completed College Geometry, Algebra 2 and Trig last semester at my local JC. Studied and completed Innovative Guy's and OCDE handbooks. Attended Teacher Test Prep weekend seminar. All together, I have spent over $2000 prepping for these tests and although I felt that I had much of the material covered, I am not a fast test taker, much to my detriment.
     
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  3. bombertodd

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    Are all the computer based Math cset tests timed at 2 hours? I'm not a fast test taker (especially with math). I guess I should look into the paper version of the test.
     
  4. TeacherGroupie

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    The paper version is no longer available, bombertodd: CSET Math is offered only by computer.

    I suspect, rapple, that assigning the first two subtests to two-hour blocks is driven partly by the practicalities of scheduling. Assuming a nine-hour testing day per computer station, only one five-hour test can be given, whereas four two-hour tests and their quarter-hour preliminaries can be squeezed into the same day. I won't argue that somewhat more testing time might be appropriate, and in fact the time for Subtest III (calculus and history of math) was lengthened by half an hour relatively recently.
     
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    I also believe the change is drive by $$$ as the more test takers and more fails = more income. Just think this state is making the process of credentialing too expensive and difficult.
     
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    If the test is the same length as when it was on paper, I don't think I would have passed with only 2 hours. I took each of the subtests on different days, and the one that took the longest was subtest II. I think I spent over 4 hours on it, though it was the first one I took and admittance to my credential program was hanging in the balance. I double-checked everything! Sorry to hear they have limited the time in this way. I hope you passed!
     
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    I just took subtest II and passed within the time limit. The time window is so limited that you must know every concept inside and out.

    After failing three times because I simply could not get to the essays I decided to take an entire summer and master every single topic on the test. To my surprise, when I took it the fourth time I recognized each type of problem immediately and raced to solve it.

    I simply can't believe they put such a short time limit on these tests. I feel the only way to pass is to be a master of the content. If you second guess yourself, or even slow down for a moment you WILL run out of time.

    With retiring teachers the state is going to hurting in the future looking for credentialed math teachers.
     

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