What do you do if there is no sub?

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  1. futuremathsprof

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    Report the school to the district office and let them know that students are roaming the halls. Your school is responsible for finding a sub when the teacher is not there.
     
  2. whizkid

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    Our school just gets ancillary personnel to play sub.
    Administration picks and chooses when they're concerned about kids roaming the hall. We even have kids who simply walk off campus when security has their heads turned.
     
  3. whizkid

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    How about 5 teachers "miss" on payday and there are no subs? Lmfao
     
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    It sounds like your school needs to be taken over by the state... No offense.
     
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    Oh, good grief. How much extra do you get paid for subbing as much as you do throughout the year, do you think?
     
  6. whizkid

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    None taken!
     
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    Extra? Extra?

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    That’s horrid! You don’t get paid extra for subbing?! Even the public schoolteachers in my area get paid because it’s beyond the purview of their contracts as they are not contracted to sub.
     
  9. whizkid

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    Our contract have the "other duties" provision even if they are against state regulations. Then again, we keep a lot of things on the "hush" around here.
     
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    Lovely.
     
  11. MrsC

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    If we are asked to cover a class because of a shortage of subs, we don't get paid extra, but we will get the time paid back.
     
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    Same here; a substitute is called in to cover all the teachers who lost prep time.
    This only happens in elementary schools though, as high school teachers usually get more prep time than stated in their contract (it should be equal to elementary teachers, but in reality it is not), so they are expected to be available to cover unfilled absences without being paid back every once in a while, as long as they get enough prep time.
    Sometimes admin ends up covering the classes too, or in senior grades, students are sent to the library and class is canceled.
     
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    I'm in elementary, so obviously no one is just leaving a class full of kids. Not that it should really happen in HS either...

    My previous P was constantly pulling the interventionists and instructional coach to sub. I can kind of see the justification in using the coach- it's better to pull someone who isn't working with kids anyway, and probably good for her as a coach to be reminded of what actual teaching is like every once in awhile. It shouldn't have happened as often as it did though. Pulling the interventionists was a major problem because then no one was getting the interventions they were supposed to. They'd literally often be subbing for 3 days out of the week.

    New P came in and changed all of that. Now classes are combined when there is no sub. Teachers who end up getting extra students do split the sub pay for that day. That's obviously not a great solution for classrooms either, but it has less of an impact than pulling intervention teachers constantly. Each classroom might have extra kids only a few days per year as opposed to kids in all grade levels missing their interventions day after day. And go figure, our data is significantly better than it used to be. The only major change in the structure of how we do things is holding that intervention block sacred and making sure it actually happens every day.
     
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    Happens all the time in my school. We don't have subs so TAs fill in and they will cancel art, music, etc. and have those teachers sub. So that means I don't get planning periods because the specials are cancelled. I heard one teacher say, "Oh, I can't do xyz on Friday because i'm calling out that day. How about next week"? One teacher is constantly out and I have no idea how she has any sick days left at all.
     
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    We have to split the class. Subs refuse to come to our school it's so bad. I had 43 kids in a 2nd grade class for 2 days last month.
     
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    We used to have aides cover our classes. Which I preferred. They knew the kids, they knew the procedures, they knew how I taught. I actually would usually just have my aide do the teaching so I wouldn't have to plan. Sub was there for legal reasons. That was killed by the district. Now the classes get split. Unless you're me. And your administrator loves you. Then she covers your class. It's great.
     
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    It just so happened that today paras were shorthanded. We were benchmarking and we are at the tale end of the flu season.
    Nox Vidmate VLC
     
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  19. MrsC

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    We didn't have subs today for either the Music teacher or the Phys Ed teacher. Teachers kept their classes during scheduled Music and Phys Ed periods (we were welcome to take the kids to the Music room or the gym) and the time will be paid back in the next few days.
     
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    Hell even in AZ when we got the split out kids, they still kicked us a couple of bucks for the added headache. And this was a K-8 school so you never knew what extra grades you'd get. :roll:
     

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