What do districts pay Subs in your town?

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  1. anon55

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    ahh Canada. Our more decent cousin to the north. Subs should unionize for benefits and wages imo, although there's real challenges to that because most people don't see themselves being a sub for an extended period of time.
     
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    I'm also in Ontario. Subs here are part of a union. In most school boards, day-to-day subbing, then taking some long-term positions is the only path to a permanent position. At least they are making a living wage in the meantime and have good working conditions.
     
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  3. Krista Marie

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    Depending on the district I sub in I can make $84-$164 a day. And then $42-$100 on half days.
    The schools where they pay more are nicer and the ones that pay less are typically much more rude and disrespectful. I feel like if anything it should be the other way around. You'd think they'd want to encourage you to come back even though the pay isn't the best. I'm not in subbing for the money, but I need to be able to support myself, ya know?
     
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    It's between $85-$120 a day for teachers here.
     
  5. RussianBlueMommy

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    $65 a day for non-degreed.
    $75 for associate
    $90 for bachelor/long term/special situations.
     
  6. lv2read

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    I live in Alberta, Canada. The rate of pay in my district is $212/day. After a set number of days in a subbing position, the teacher is placed on the regular salary grid. (I'm not sure what the number of days is - I'm retired and have no desire to work that much to find out! :))
     
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    Jeez, that's a sweet deal!
    The district I sub in pays $135/day for day-to-day, and I think it jumps to something like $165/day for long term (but I've never done that so I don't know for sure). The other district near here pays $112/day and I just found out para subs in that district make more than the actual paras do - $12/hour
     
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    Subs $80, $90 for long term - No differences for education or certification.
    Paras $8.05ph
     
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    Not to be a downer, but are those of you posting from Canada using CAD (I'd assume you are)? Converting, it's still on the high end for US districts but it isn't as big a leap from the larger/ higher paying districts here as it seems otherwise. It does seem like the working conditions are likely better though!

    Here in Philly the subs are outsourced (started last year, which was something of a disaster). There is a new company for this year and the rates are "from $160/day (with valid PDE certification) and $126/day (bachelor's degree, non-certified or out of state certification)."
     
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    $75 half day
    $150 full day
    $200 long term sub
     
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    I have been told that sub pay is going down in some of my local districts as a cost cutting measure. Average here is around 75 with a few districts not offering LT bonus till 20 consecutive days.
     
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    Doing the conversion, the subs in my district earn a bit more than $200/day (US currency). Long-term subs receive benefits, and day-to-day subs can buy into the benefit plan. All of our subs are qualified teachers; many are recent graduates who are waiting for contract positions. In general, conditions for our subs are really good. The subs who are in our building a lot are just like members of the staff!
     
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    As we have discussed, that is the biggest difference in subbing in our respective areas. Substitutes are the butt of jokes here, even though most are certified teachers. The pay is much better in your area, and it seems the working conditions are there too. Daily subs are treated very badly in most cases (LT subs are humanized and treated much better) because the attitude is that substitutes are "a dime a dozen". If some of my local districts get their way, that will be roughly the going rate for substitute teachers.
     
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  14. anon55

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    not to mention the way students are sometimes allowed to treat subs. I subbed for a year and 90% of my experiences were great, but there were a few cases where the kids were so bad and the school was unprepared. For example, I subbed in one school which always made mistakes. They listed job as English when it was actually drama (which was fine, but it threw me off). Another time I subbed for a Math teacher who was gone for a month already and there were no plans at all. Plus they had block schedule so the classes were 2 hours long! So, all I did was show a movie. Another time the kids were talking about smoking weed during class and got in my face. It was scary AND this was a highly ranked elite school. It's surprising but schools like that can still have terrible reputations for misbehavior. Only after the fact did I hear that many subs refuse jobs from that school for that reason
     
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    I checked around, and the highest near me is $115 a day. The lowest is $85.
     
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    Before Source4Teachers, about $85-$120 a day. Since their entry into this area, drop it to $70-$80, with the exception of the districts which are still independent. Biggest change - LTS who worked a full semester were paid at teacher contract rate virtually everywhere. Now, if they are using S4T, they want you to do the same work as the teacher for no more than $147/day, that after working 15 consecutive days, and if you get sick and miss a day, you have to work those 15 consecutive days again to get the "top dollar". Some districts that can't fill LTS under this new regime are at least by-passing S4T if they are filling LTS positions through recruiting over the summer. In all of those instances, I noticed, they have gone with the contract rate instead of nickel and diming the subs they truly need to be able to function. Do they still outsource for daily subs? Yep, but at least they have learned that the best candidates need to be paid appropriately, unless you want the job to become a day to day, different sub, kind of a job.
     
  17. Kat.

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    Non certified is $85 a day, certified is $95 a day. Then on Mondays and Fridays and shortage areas (Special Ed, etc.) you get an additional $10 a day. Then if you're long term you start getting $30 more a day on the 11th day.
     
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    In Southern California- Inland Empire/San Gabriel Valley area it varies by district:
    The lowest I have seen is $110 per day $150 LTS after a set amount of days
    The Highest I have seen is $125per day to $160 LTS after a set amount...

    None that I have seen had Medical benefits
     
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    $90-$120.

    I thought that was low! In my homestate, it's around $180/day!

    Some of these posts are crazy. That a district would place such low value on subs that they'd barely get minimum wage... that's ridiculous.
     
  20. Kat.

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    I'm just thanking God my husband just got a job so I won't *have* to find a second part-time gig. Plus insurance for just the two of us would be over $900 a month...how is that even possible when I'll be getting $85 a day?!
     

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