Useful Web sites for single subject math/science

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  1. adreamer

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    tell me more

    By the way, does the material have questions and answers? Are the questions sufficient or did you get questions elsewhere?

    By the way, did you pass?
     
  2. TeacherGroupie

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    Which materials, adreamer?
     
  3. Teacher2007

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    I passed both subtest I and II (haven't taken III) yet. I thought the schaums thing was a waste of time and money. I bought the study guides from the Orange County Department of Education and loved them. I was tired of looking at hundreds of websites that people posted. If you have a few weeks, definitely buy these guides. I purchased some stuff from online and it was a waste of money (even some of the suggested ones above).

    The guides had a "lesson" and notes and then tons of practice problems with full solutions.
     
  4. TeacherGroupie

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    Which goes to show, yet again, that not every resource works for every test taker. It always makes me sad when anyone interprets a bad experience with a given resource automatically as a negative reflection on the user. Not, I hasten to add, that that's the case here.
     
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    One thing I did was frequent the used book stores. If something looked good and was inexpensive, I'd buy it. I'm the type of person who likes having lots of materials on hand to study from. If one text presented the material in an unclear or boring way, I'd look up that topic in another text. Or, even if something was well-presented, I'd view another source to see how it covered the topic and also to check for additional insights.

    I figure my accumulation of books and software will serve as a reference library when I teach.
     
  6. TeacherGroupie

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    You bet, jazzminjoy!
     
  7. adreamer

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    Orange County study material subset I

    I am trying to figure out if the Orange Country material is good enough, by itself, for studying for subset I?
     
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    orange county material for subset I

    So do you think the Orange county material is enough, if you cover all their questions? Are the questions on the same level as the real lest?

    Thanks
     
  9. TeacherGroupie

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    adreamer, I think you'll find that the answer varies depending on who you talk to - but in general people seem to like the OCDE stuff.
     
  10. Teacher2007

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    Yes, I thought it was a great study resource and I only had to look up a few things on the internet that I personally needed more detail on (but very FEW problems). Trust me, you'll hardly have time to get through all of the sample problems they give you. It really helped me know how to approach problems on the actual test. I felt very prepared.

    My other suggestion is to take only one test at a time. I used up all 5 hours on each subtest. I didn't feel rushed, I was able to feel confident about each problem. Others have done 2 at a time, but I wanted to be sure that I passed each time. Good luck. Get the OCDE books.
     
  11. adreamer

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    that is what I wanted to hear

    I am so happy you felt the material prepared you. By the way, did you have high level math calsses in college that might have helped a lot too, or do you think it was the Orange County material that did it for you?

    How many weeks of full time studying do you think you need for reviewing all of the Orange County questions? is one month enough?

    By the way, did you ever get to see innovationguy's questions? I am not sure if to get both or just one or the other.

    I too belive in taking one test at a time, I just took Geometry, and I took my time, but I am not 100% sure I passed. I did not leave enough time for the last 4 essays, three took longer than I expected.
    I hope the graders dish out partial credit generously.

    Thanks
     
  12. TeacherGroupie

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    Don't call those written answers "essays", because they're not - paragraphing, mechanics, introduction/conclusion, etc. are so not required.

    adreamer, if you look back through this thread and through other threads on CSET math (and on other states' single subject math exams, though we've had fewer posts on those), I think you'll find discussions of questions related to those you raise. I rather think that the amount of time (and effort) one should spend studying is independent of the specific resources.
     
  13. JayR

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    I carefully examined the topic list for Praxis II Math from the free ETS online study guide, and I compared it to the topic list from the $35 ETS Study Guide, and they are different. For example, the $35 ETS Study guide includes Abstract Algebra and Computer Science, but the free site does not. Does this make sense? Why would they do this?
     
  14. TeacherGroupie

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    It could depend on which Praxis II math exam you're taking.

    The Web site shows four Praxis II math tests, not counting the Teaching Foundations exam. I notice that the $35 ETS guide covers three of the four (the fourth is the middle school math exam). It could be that the particular Praxis II exam that you are taking is not one that requires abstract algebra and computer science.
     
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    I have another Praxis II math (0061) question. Does anyone know how the number answered correctly relates to the final Praxis score? For example, how many correct answers give a score of 150? Is there a source for this?
     
  16. TeacherGroupie

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    With most teacher tests there is not a one-to-one correspondence between raw scores and scaled scores. There are several reasons for this. The biggest is probably that it's very, very hard to write test questions that are exactly equivalent in difficulty. To work around this, the algorithm that converts raw scores to scaled scores also includes "fudge factors" (so to speak) to correct for variation in difficulty; the intent is to have it be the case that each score of 150 will represent a comparable level of knowledge. In addition, many teacher tests contain non-scoring questions: questions that are being road-tested for future editions of the exam and that don't count against you now.
     
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    Orange County Department of Education Materials

    I used the OCDE prep materials for CSET Biology III. Here is my take on them...

    There is a lot of boiler plate in them: CSET subject matter requirements from NES, State Science Framework, general test taking strategies, sample tests from NES, AP tests from somewhere. Only a small fraction of the material actually addresses what you have to know on test day. That said, what is there is pretty much right on target, although some of it doesn't go to an adequate depth. I still had to supplement it with material from other sources, and still made my own outline and filled it in as needed. In short, not a great deal for the price, but useful.

    The materials also cover the biology part of CSET Science II and seem to be a bit more complete in this area.
     
  18. TeacherGroupie

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    There's an inevitable awkwardness here. Materials that do justice to everything that could be asked would have to be the size of... well, an undergraduate education, or at least the lower-division courses. But a set of documents that size is automatically pretty daunting... and it remains the case that that's passive learning and that constructing one's own test guide gets one closer to mastery of the material.
     
  19. Teacher2007

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    All I know is that I used the OCDE prep books for CSET Math I and II and passed. I hardly supplemented them at all. I wasted a lot of time looking at suggestions from all of these posts, and when I got down to it, the books prepared me enough to pass. There were tons of practice problems and worked out solutions. I cannot comment on science ones. As I always say - get off the internet and start studying!
     
  20. TeacherGroupie

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    And different approaches work for different people, and that's fine too.
     

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