Transition from NYC to NJ

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  1. joeteach

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    Hi there,

    I'm a new teacher in NYC :). I am an ENL (English as a New Language Teacher) in grades K-12.

    My plan is to transition to working in NJ, I live in NJ now, and my wife and I want to move to a county/city closer to the shore.

    I'm hoping I can get some information, not so much about the certification transfer process, but about opportunities, location, resources, and contacts.

    Right now I am a have my MA and certification in TESOL (working with English language learners). I also have my BA in English. In the next few years, I also plan on getting certified to be an ELA/literature teacher, or sometime of literacy coach (I'm not sure about grade level, right now I work with K-12 students).

    Any advice, thoughts, or resources would be greatly appreciated. I'm thinking about things like salary, benefits, pensions, work environments, growth/opportunities, etc...

    I've tried to be brief, let me know if anything needs clarification. I'm excited to hear responses.

    thanks,
    joe
     
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  3. Reality Check

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    I'm in Pennsylvania, but I obtained my New Jersey certificate some years ago. When I applied to NJ districts over the river (until Chris Christie took that right away from us), most schools districts looked for just out of college, cheaper, younger, Bachelor of Arts only candidates. Masters degrees? They don't want to pay for that!
     
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    OP will find that a little different reception as an ESL teacher, since you can't earn that endorsement without graduate credits - 15 to 21, depending on whether there is a NJ standard certificate already received, or student teaching completed. That will somewhat change OP's job search, somewhat. Not saying that it is going to go better than the previous poster, but it is a difference. FWIW, the districts most in need of ESL teachers tend to be in the most tend to be in the most populous locales. That said, NJ is only about 60 wide and a 180 miles long.
     
  5. joeteach

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    Thanks for the information, both of you.

    Both of your responses are generally what I've figured so far.

    That's one of the reasons I'm looking to get certified in another area, i.e. to be more marketable than just a BA or MA teacher. Also, I've reached out to NJDOE to get info about how my current certification would work in a job search. Thanks again for the info...I'm hoping more people chime in here.

    best,
    Joe
     
  6. physteach

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    When I transferred, I basically told NJ I needed to transfer, paid a fee, and had a new certificate within weeks. It was easy to find a job before getting my NJ certificate as long as I included my NY one and the confirmation that NJ was in process.
     
  7. joeteach

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    Thanks, physteach. I'm guessing from your name this wasn't for ESL. I think that might be different in NJ. I'm not sure if NJ has designated ESL teacher the same way NY does. Does anyone know about this?

    Thanks,
    joe
     
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    What were your requirements to acquire the ESL certification in NY? That will give me a better idea about how easy the transfer will be. Did you have to take graduate credits, or simply pass a test? I highly recommend contacting NJDOE and speaking to someone in person to find out how your preparation compares to ESL prep in NJ, and then getting a more official answer. When in doubt, go directly to the source. You may need to have your transcript and your certifications evaluated by NJDOE to get a truly valid answer.
     
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  9. joeteach

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    Hi,

    The certification is a TESOL K-12 MA with NYS teaching certification. It is a full graduate school program through CUNY Hunter. I am in contact with other agencies and am trying to get info from the source, but am also trying to reach out to all resources like forums and such. Thanks again

    Best
    Joe
     
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    You should be fine with that as far as NJ is concerned. The people who have trouble are the ones who passed a single test without graduate courses in the content.
     
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    Thanks. I'm wondering if NJ schools have the same type of position of ENL/ESL teacher, or if it is more of/only and extension for teachers certified in other subjects and areas.
     
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    No, it is a stand alone certification. Don't be surprised if someone assumes you speak Spanish, but as an ESL teacher your job is to teach English. In the upper grades, it will be more about academic language so that they can carry their course load, but still teaching English. Best of luck.
     
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    Yes, NJ does have a particular certificate for ESL.
     

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