The way children speak to teachers is disgusting, do you agree?

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  1. Missturner

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    If she had walked out and then explained she was bursting afterwards, I would have preferred that rather than I'll piss on your floor.
     
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    As a sub, I would deny some middle school students bathroom breaks. They would use it as time to play on their phone and wander the halls.

    I had a girl walk into class on her phone. I said, "Please put the phone away - you know the school policy." He continued to use it, saying, "I'm almost done. This is important."
    I began to introduce what we were doing that day and she was still on the phone. I got stern and said, "Put it away or I call security."
    There was no asking politely for phones with some students. Snotty girls would shove them down the front of their pants and say, "What phone?" If you replied, "The one you just put in your pants." They responded, "You are nasty, looking at that part of my body. I'm gonna get you fired for being a pervert."
    So I would always involve security with some individuals.
    She put the phone down with a rolling of eyes and an OMG. 30 secs later, "Can I go the the bathroom?"
    I responded, "No, not now, when I'm done talking about what we are doing today."
    She said, "It's a girl thing, if you know what I mean. If I don't go then it will be your fault if I make a mess."
    So I let her go. Big smile and phone left the classroom. A few other students said, "Man, Mr. teacher dude, you're dumb. You know all she's gonna do is use her phone."

    True, but in tough schools you pick your battles and get back up when you do.

    Speaking of respect..
    A different middle school. I had a girl come up to my desk, interrupt others, and loudly ask, "Can I get a ruler?!?" I calmly replied, "Yes, if you ask nicely and say PLEASE."
    Her response, "I ain't gonna BEG you for a ruler! You GOTTA give me one because it's a school supply!"

    Please = begging? I guess, for some people.
     
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    I never had kids in elem or HS say "your just a sub". Middle - they said it with their actions.
     
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    I wish I had called her bluff and handed her the wastebasket. You will be cleaning it up, I like that.
     
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    LOL extra credit. We can't even give extra credit for things actually related to our subject area, I can't imagine if we tried awarding extra points for that.

    I do have the kids who I think abuse the bathroom (they always go just to go hang out with friends from other classes), but I never argue with them about it. I just sigh and say "yesh, yesh....".
     
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    I know this is a trick area, but there's a lot of truth about putting the learning back on the student. If you miss the lesson and fail the test because you were playing in the bathroom, so be it.
     
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    I disagree. The first page and even beyond of this thread was all pretty polite criticism. It wasn't until the OP became unnecessarily defensive that the stakes had to be raised.
     
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    Based upon your posts in this thread, you seem unyielding, coercive, and unkind.
     
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    For frequent offenders who abuse their bathroom privilege, I email parents and say the following, “Your child has been going to the bathroom every day at the same time. I am wondering if they have a medical problem because I am concerned for their wellbeing.” This does two things: 1) It alerts the parents to the missed instruction time, which is a lot, and 2) it embarrasses the student. I’ve had mortified students let me know that they will start coming to class on time and “wait to go.” However, we both know they didn’t have to go. ;)
     
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    If someone consistently doesn't say something in a nice enough way for you, you can block them and you won't see their posts unless someone quotes them. It may help you out a bit since you seem to be offended often.
     
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    Another strategy along these lines...I always check homework the second the bell rings. I have a number of students who like to go to the bathroom at the beginning of class, and they still haven't figured out that if they're going to go, they need to leave out their homework for me to check. I just enter 0s online and put a comment (our online system allows this) saying "In bathroom during check" so their parents can see. Of course, they can still show it to me for credit afterwards, but I'm not willing to chase them down and ask for it because they were going potty during the check.
     
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    I very rarely have issues with students speaking to me that way. When I do, they don't typically try it more than once.
     
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    In my district you'd be in the supe's office having to defend your highly questionable actions.
     
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    Having taught for over 30 years, I learned to just take a stand and remind students of the need for them to use the restroom during recess and lunch. After 2-3 days at the beginning of the year, it was no longer an issue - this was at a school with everyone receiving government assistance.

    The fact that so many people have responded to this thread shows how passionate some teachers are about advocating for students' rights. IMHO, it's not a matter of respect, biological necessity, or comparing children with adults. This was never an issue when I was in grade school and according to my inquiries, this is a non-issue in classrooms in many other countries as well. Instead, this is a reflection of just how liberal/permissive American classrooms have become. I would encourage everyone to take a look at the college forum (go back to grade level forums) to learn how our contemporary practices are making classroom management impossible in higher education - the postings will remind you of your own classrooms!
     
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    In my area you'd probably find yourself on the news.
     
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    What drama is in my classroom?

    A kid needs to go to the bathroom. He goes. 2 minutes later, he's back. The classroom is not disrupted. My teaching is not disrupted. His learning is not disrupted.

    If I have this huge banner of potty issues, how is that less disruptive than letting a kid go to the bathroom?
     
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    I would like to point out that you are talking high school teenagers and OP is talking about 8 year olds. I'm not sure that what you choose to do with your age group is actually appropriate for lower elementary school. I fear that "I wish I had called her bluff and handed her the wastebasket. You will be cleaning it up, I like that" is less than an ideal response. I am pretty sure that response to a second or third grader is highly likely to have a negative impact on OP's job status.
     
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