teacher insight test

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  1. chebrutta

    chebrutta Enthusiast

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    I think that's the point - since everything happens in a split second in the classroom, how are YOU going to react in a time constraint? i don't like the test anymore than anyone else (I *really* want to know how I did), but I understand their reasoning behind it.
     
  2. MATgrad

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    The key to thing is to always be child-centered and like one of those "TV teachers." You know the ones that have no lives outside education, work three jobs, etc. I've taken it three times now. When I took it with that mentality I started getting interviews in that district.
     
  3. blondie77

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    How do you know you did well (not that you didn't :) )? No one will ever give me feedback on the test, which I find VERY irritating. Who did you call for feedback? Thanks!:)

     
  4. INteacher

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    What is this test???? And what does it have to do with getting a job??? Is this a test only in certain states???
     
  5. AMB

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    INteacher-

    It's a bit like a "personality" test (see p. 2 for the actual questions) "Do you use humor in the classroom?" that many districts in many states use to weed out candidates. For some of the districts/tests, you get to take it once a year. For some, you only get to take it once every two years. They never tell you how you did. They use it instead of an interview/pre-screening interview in many districts. (So if you do well, you will get called by building principals for school interviews instead of the district level interview. If you don't do well, forget about getting hired in that district, for this year at least...)

    I did really well on it my first year taking it (for the past school year.) I had a lot of interviews. I did not do so well this year actually, I think because I spent so much time trying to remember how I answered last year instead of what I thought the best answer was...it messed me up, I think. (I didn't have nearly as many interviews this year, so at least I'm guessing I didn't do as well.) Luckily, I managed to get a job in a district that doesn't use it. But it's pretty widespread across the US. I'm sure more districts/states use it more heavily than others...
     
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    Thanks AMB - I had never heard of this test before.
     
  7. SCTeachInTX

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    Go take it again. They allow you to do that.... I would resubmit it, if you feel like you did poorly. The major reason they give that test is to make sure your personality is not that of a person that should not be around people or small children. Perhaps you just psyched yourself out.:hugs: Do it again and feel better!:)
     
  8. deda

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    I took this test yesterday after receiving an email from our new Superintendent that it had to be taken before being put on a list of hirees. I was RIFed last year due to nontenure status and of course the usual "no money" problems of education. Well, I have already been through 8 interviews before taking this test. Now I have to wait and see if I "pass" this very unscientific test? You know it is time to unite as teachers and say enough. I have a Master's Degree, 14 yrs. in early childhood teaching, 2 yeaers in kindegarten, highly qualified and 164 PRAXIS yet my employability is determined by this test? Sounds illegal to me. If anyone would like to join up and find a way to fight this, please email me at deda45@knology.net. I'm hopping mad that this is what the field of education has come to. Please let's unite.
     
  9. penguinpc

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    Thinking about this again as I have to take it soon. I'm just going to try to be honest, child centered, and not overthink things.

    I remember being given the Teacher Perceiver, very similar to this, by an HR person who asked the questions. I liked that I was able to qualify my answers. No chance to do that on line.
     
  10. VivaLasVegas

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    Thanks

    First of all, :thanks: I really appreciate you listing the actual ?s. I was wondering if you've heard back from the district you were applying with? I've taken it once and my score wasn't satisfactory for that district and I'm about to retake it...ugh!
     
  11. texjess2010

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    I am posting a bit late on this topic but just wanted to have some input! I guess it depends on the district but this test should not be that hard. I do not think it directly relates to teaching so much as the state testing. I took an identical test for my current "Corporate America" job. It's all about interaction, how do you get your motivation, how do you motivate, how do you handle situations, etc. There are no right or wrong answers, only a compilation of answers that provide a "profile" to the district/hiring manager. It's like they are looking for people who fall within the guidelines of personalities a and b. Personalities c and beyond are not compatible with their districts. It does not reflect on your ability to be hired by another district. As mentioned before, should you choose, you can always manipulate the test:)

    I have taken 3 for three different DFW districts and they didn't really tell me that I passed or failed until I started filling out specific applications and I was given a notice that I have completed the survey and it would be sent with my application. I have not really had any district reject my application thus far. Anyway, hope this helps/calms some fears! Good luck!
     
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    I didn't take a TEST like this... but some districts here will put a personality profiler quiz in their application...and it is shared with other schools that use the same quiz. Your answers last for two years (hope mine were good - you aren't told. It just says "thank you"). You can't go back and re-do them.

    I also had a screening interview that was somewhat like this and passed it quite well. SITUATIONAL questions/interviews I soar through...it's the interviews where they are asking you questions like a college exam that make me nervous.
     
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    good advice ... at least, I think it is

     
  14. ashleybritton

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    Oh no! This worries me. I was reading through your answers and I would legitimately answer almost exactly as you did...have you still not heard anything back? I'm hoping you started to get some interviews shortly after you posted this!
     
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    The districts do not tell you how you did. If they do, it would be the first time I have heard of this. I know you may not think it is difficult but my principal told me it cuts the number of qualified persons by 2/3rds. The district does not alert the person that they did not "pass" because they say there are no right or wrong answers. But I know in the DFW area if you do not pass, you do not get called to interview. At least that is what my assistant p told me. :)
     
  16. Amanda

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    Hi everyone, please refrain from posting actual test questions. I received this email today:
     
  17. noteye

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    Since the Teacher Insight test was created by Gallup, I researched all the Gallup articles about 'effective teachers.' I also researched how to take one of these tests. First rule is to pick extremes. Choose answers with always or never, extremely agree or extremely disagree. Everything is black and white, no grey. Stay away from answers with the words sometimes, neutral, or somewhat. If you are asked if you are honest. Your answer will be "yes, I am always honest." DON'T be humble. You are the best and brightest of the best and brightest. Everyone asks you for help. You are efficient. You are the hardest worker you know. Your work so hard that people say, "you work to much." You are a leader. You are perfect. Yes, you want kids to like you. Yes, respect is earned. Any answer with the word "grow" is correct. You want to see a student grow or progress. Always choose the answer about teamwork and being part of a team and helping others. Also, everything is about putting the student first. You will always meet the needs of the individual instead of the lesson or curriculum. It's all about the student. This is just my opinion from my research. Good Luck!
     
  18. MullerMusings

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    Ugh.

    This screener frustrates me. If the extremes are the choices that supposedly get a 'passing' grade on these exams and allow applications/resumes to be looked at by a human being then I'm not ever going to get hired.

    To answer the extreme yes or no on each question isn't honest. I'm not the "happiest" person I know. I do take student's scores personally but I don't dwell on them--of course I feel badly if my students did poorly on an exam and the first thing I do is reflect on them. I look for a pattern, a determining factor. That way, I am able to decide the best way to proceed. My energy level? I don't know if it energizes others. I would like to think I don't make students nervous as I've never had any indication that I do. I definitely don't know if my students work harder for me than they do for other teachers. I'd like to believe they work hard for everyone because they're good students. UGH!!!:2cents:
     
  19. 4evermore

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    Two things about this test that aggravate me so completely:
    1) Lack of immediate feedback and suggested areas of improvement. Don't tell me I failed without telling me what area(s) I need to work on.

    2) How can a test be a definitive, conclusive summary of who I am as a person or a teacher? How can a personality test be a career-ender for so many impassioned educators? No test can tell me that I am not empathetic, passionate or innovative. I know I am with every fiber of my being. For a test to know what I am like, it would need to become sentient and observe me in the classroom.

    Imagine if a teacher told a student, "Sorry, your personality failed to meet the pre-screening requirements for me to teach you. Try again next year."

    Shouldn't this test should be given BEFORE any teacher invests years of her life and thousands of dollars training, learning, planning, failing, crying, rebuilding, growing and mastering herself in pursuit of her dream?

    Our complaints do not remedy this situation. Protests, actions, lawsuits might.
     
  20. BevInTX

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    I know this is an old thread but I'm a former teacher trying to return to the classroom after 15 years of raising children and I've been hit with TeacherInsight assessment by every school district within driving distance of my home.

    I taught high school math and science for 12 years - quite successfully! - before leaving the classroom to stay home with new-born twins. The twins are in high school now and their youngest brother just started first-grade. I'm eager to return to teaching so applied for open positions at all of the high schools within driving distance of my home. There were something like twenty math or science openings at eight high schools in four different school districts within a forty-five minute drive from my home.

    Despite being certified in secondary math, chemistry, physics, physical science and secondary composite science (all subjects for which qualified teachers are chronically lacking); despite having a masters degree in education, despite my twelve years of teaching experience during which I received multiple teaching awards and designed and piloted a highly successful AP program; despite excellent references; and despite the fact that over the past fifteen years I have successfully tutored several dozen local high school kids (including the son of the superintendent of schools for my local school district) I was not offered a single position!

    Two of the districts at which I applied required one to take the TI at the time one submitted one's application. I did not even get an interview at those schools. At the other two districts (including my home district), I was Interviewed and the interviews went great. I was THEN told that I needed to take this "teacher insight" test before they could actually hire me. As soon as I did, that was the end of the road. I almost immediately got nice emails saying that they had decided to hire other applicants! A friend (one of my daughter's teachers) told me this week that the reason I didn't get hired was because of my Teacher Insight scores!

    It never occurred to me that that test could be THAT important since it was so obviously flawed from the get-go. My lawyer husband would have immediately objected to practically every question as "equivocal" meaning that it could equally well be understood in two or more distinct ways leading to two very different "truthful" answers. The answer one gives depends on just how the question happens to strike the listener at the moment. Lawyers LOVE asking their opponents equivocal questions so that they can trip them up later! Thus, a big part of advising a client during a deposition is objecting to equivocal questions and forcing the other lawyer to rephrase his questions so that they are UNequivocal.

    I'd guess that the less one actually knows about the real world of teaching and about kids, the more likely one would be to consistently pick the "right" answer on the Teacher Insight! Greater knowledge and experience probably lead one to see the multiple possible meanings of the questions and therefore make it harder to pick a "truthful" answer - much less the "right" one!

    I have no doubt that I answered some supposedly identical queries that were worded slightly differently in opposite ways... simply because the question struck me differently the second time I saw it than it did the first. And, in some cases, the both ways of looking at the question were instantly and equally apparent to me - basically forcing me to blindly choose between "equally false/equally true" responses. Obviously, I did not answer the questions "right" even tho Gallup claims there are no right/wrong answers.

    Since I have a husband and five kids, I don't exactly have the option of moving off somewhere else to apply and I'm probably locked out of teaching at any of my local districts for the foreseeable future. Who knows how long they keep one's old scores? If/when I get another chance, I'm thinking about having my nine-year old do the test for me! She reads well but is naive enough to probably glom onto the "right" answers quickly and easily. LOL!

    Finally a little internet research pulled up the following study showing that the Teacher Insight test does NOT predict whether a teacher will or will not be effective...at least according to data compiled in my state using state mandated assessments of student achievement:

    https(colon)//digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc9835/m2/1/high_res_d/dissertation (dot)pdf

    So, why are districts still using this thing????
     

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