Praxis II scores raw/scaled?

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  1. journogirl

    journogirl Rookie

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    Those were my scaled scores! I'm over the moon!
     
  2. TeacherGroupie

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    Congratulations!
     
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    So I know that everyone seems to have the same concern or question, but posting helps anyway. I took the Praxis 5038 today and my *raw score at the end was 189. This seems to be the scaled score, not raw score. I need a 167 for PA and I want to pop the champange, but am nervous to celebrate just yet. The questions were only multiple choice. The official results will be out in 10 days, but who can wait that long these days!!
     
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    Did you get your official scaled score yet?
     
  5. TeacherGroupie

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    BethConard, I agree that it's a bit soon to pop the cork - but buying and icing the champagne wouldn't be out of order.
     
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    Hello everyone! I just took the art content 5134. Passing score is 158. At the end of the test, raw score showed 164. I understand the scoring is scaled but if each item is 2 points, that means I only got 82 correct out of 120. Does this mean I didn't pass the test? :-( Please advise.
     
  7. TeacherGroupie

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    Praxis content-knowledge tests normally give one raw point per correct response, not two points. If your raw score had been given, it would be less than 120 (and I say "less than" because a certain number of questions aren't counted: those questions are being field tested for inclusion in future versions of the test).

    In short, your 164 is an unofficial scaled score, and it would be surprising if your official score report gave a different official score.
     
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    Hi all. I've read through all of the comments. I took the praxis 5038 today, and after the test a Raw Score: 168 & then the sectioned scores that equaled 79. I'm thinking out of 130 questions, I got 61% correct & that may come out to a 161 scaled score. I need a 167... Any advice. I may just sign up to take the test again next week before this testing window ends. Ugh...
     
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  9. TeacherGroupie

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    Your raw score is 79: the raw score is the total number of selected responses you got right. 5038 has 130 questions, yes, but not all of them are actually counted either for or against you (see the last line of page 5 of the Study Companion). It follows that 168 is almost certainly your scaled score.
     
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    I just barely too the science praxis 5005. There were 50 questions on the test. I need a 159 to pass. I got three raw scores from the three sections on the test. They were 14,12 and 12. That would be 38 total raw points. Would anyone know if that would be a passing score?
     
  11. TeacherGroupie

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    That's just short of 80% correct, assuming that no questions are "pre-test" questions (that is, not scored because they're being field tested). Creature of caution that I am, I'll say that I think your chances are good.
     
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    I took the praxis 5005 yesterday and got a NS. My raw score was 32. 13, 8, and 11. I got a 64 percent overall when I divided 32/50. Colorado needs 159 for passing. Hoping I passed.
     
  13. TMJR

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    I have taken three Praxis II Tests in the past 4 months. Fortunately, I passed them all. I am from Pennsylvania. I got a 173 on the 5038 (English/LA) 110 questions were scored and I got 82 correct, which is 75%, a 148 on the 5221 (Communications) 100 questions and got 57 correct, which is 57%, and a 163 on the 5122 (FCS) 104 questions and I got 78 correct, which is 75%. I was reading on another website dealing with praxis ii subject tests where the person is saying that your scaled score is the percent you got correct plus 100 (plus or minus 1 or 2 points). I did write to the person giving the person my information and asking for an explanation because I couldn't understand the person's logic, and, of course, I got no response. I guess I'm wondering your thoughts on this because if you look at my scores the only one that is even close to what the person says is the 5038. I should have got a 157 in the Communications and a 175 in the FCS if the person's logic is correct. I'm not asking anyone to take sides with anyone. I am just wondering how this person can justify saying that when my scores clearly don't show it to be the percentage correct plus 100. Do you have any insight into this? Any response would be very much appreciated. I'm planning to take the Health Education (5551) test in the next few weeks and I need a 158. Do you know or can you speculate the approximate percentage of questions I need to get correct to pass that test? Or is there anyone else in the forum who might be able to share his/her score with the number correct. Thanks.
     
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    I just took the Business Education test, 5101. My score that popped on the screen was 182. Then below it, the screen displayed my raw score of the questions I got right. I'm assuming that is my scaled score because I had 120 questions. The ETS range of average scores is 164-182 based on the UYSP file I downloaded. So, I celebrated early. I saw how many I got right in each category and most were over 75% .
     
  15. TeacherGroupie

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    Congratulations! Yes, 182 certainly sounds like your scaled score.
     
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    Thanks! I'm glad this thread is still active. It helped me today.
     
  17. TeacherGroupie

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    TMJR, congratulations on passing your Praxis exams so far. You're right to be skeptical about passing scores directly representing percentages of raw points earned. Versions of a subtest inevitably differ among themselves in difficulty, and scaling is intended in part to compensate for that.
     
  18. TMJR

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    Thanks so much for the reply. I appreciate it. I seem to trust your thinking much more.
     
  19. TeacherGroupie

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    TMJR, flattery will get you... well, as far as I'm willing to crawl out on a limb. What I've seen over the years suggests that most teacher tests can be passed with approximately 2/3 of available points before nonscoring points are deducted from the total (which would be likelier to raise the final percentage than lower it, for the reason that the nonscoring questions are the ones that are likeliest to be weird and therefore difficult to answer). Your results for 5221 are about consistent with my observations, I think. From what you've said of 5122 and 5221, which are also 120-question tests, I think you'll see between 100 and 104 scoring questions, and if you get 66 to 68 of those right I'd expect you to pass (and possibly to pass comfortably). Below 60% is iffy, and more precisely than that, I prefer not to speculate.

    Let me give you some tips for free:
    1. Except on a fairly stupid teacher test, most questions won't just ask you to parrot definitions: they'll ask you to reason - to think - using the foundational principles of the subject matter and, possibly, your understanding of the needs of the students involved.
    2. A multiple-choice answer is the right answer only if it is less wrong than all the other answers. A given multiple-choice answer may make a statement about bobbin tension and middle-school students; if the scenario in the question stem is instead about hand embroidery and high-school students, or gluing and elementary students, the multiple-choice answer is almost certainly wrong.
    3. If either the test outline in the Study Companion or your state's content standards for FCS mentions some skill or procedure about which you're a little vague, look it up on the Internet - Wikipedia is a lovely resource - and then practice explaining it to yourself with all its technical terminology. The more you use the terminology, the more it's yours - and you should find that this helps your future teaching as well.
     
  20. TMJR

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    Thank you again for the valuable information. I agree that most questions are not simply just giving back information that was memorized. I also found that in some cases, if you have good common sense and judgment, the answer "sticks right out" at you. Thanks again. I will be taking the Health Education test next Saturday (Nov. 12, 2016).
     
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