Praxis II Math 0061 - raw vs. scaled

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  1. chasisaac

    chasisaac Comrade

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    First of all you should not have much of a problem. It is amazing how much we learn when we teach.

    Second this scale WORKS! (EDIT: Uhm no it does not. I am still working and have found a cache of scores.)

    Let me do a tish more testing and I will post on the usability of the table.
     
  2. TeacherGroupie

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    But questions, and therefore weightings of questions, vary from one version or edition of the test to another.
     
  3. test taker 63

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    I have just taken the praxis 0061 yesterday . It was too hard for 2 hours only . the test is designed to look complicated and test the real performance of a beginner math teacher . No book really can cover the real level of difficulty of every question in this test . Just give me some time and I can "design " an equivalent test of 50 long complicated math questions and use it to torture test takers in two hours to make them feel helpless and unprepared to become math teachers . I would like to see these test designers sit down to take a test designed by I and the other test takers .
     
  4. chasisaac

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    You and everyone else who has suffered a PRAXIS (TExAS, CBEST, et el) test. Oh and if they do not pass the test, after hanging in limbo for four weeks (why so long?), they are fired from their job. :lol:
     
  5. chasisaac

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  6. TeacherGroupie

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    I'd like to know whether these statistics reflect attempts at the test or unique test takers; a great many people require more than one attempt to pass, so it's important to define exactly who and what we mean by "test passer".
     
  7. chasisaac

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    It is test attempts not unique test takers. And the other problem with the stats is they did not take a number and make it passing. Or the average of the passing score for all states. So the (2011 passing scores) a 123 (42%) in MS is equal to a 141 (54%) in DE, DC, (156 in CO, 147 in VA who no longer accept the Praxis). That is a six question difference.
     
  8. msleep

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    Virginia accepts the Praxis.
     
  9. chasisaac

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    Wow, I thought they got rid of it a few years ago and went the way of CA, FL, and TX
     
  10. TeacherGroupie

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    Virginia stayed with Praxis for everything but VCLA (basic skills) and VRE (reading instruction methodology exams), and has now gone back to Praxis for the reading exams.

    Texas uses TExES, which was an NES exam series (back before Pearson acquired NES) when launched but is now ETS (though not Praxis). It's worth noting that the (or a) basic skills exam in Texas, whose acronym I don't now recall, is a Pearson/NES exam that I believe is also used for college admissions.

    Florida's FTCE started out as a homegrown product that is now administered by Pearson. The last time I checked, it was still the case that FTCE is the only Pearson test series I know of that doesn't offer any free test-prep materials on the official Web site.

    California uses several distinct test programs, not counting proficiency exams in Hebrew and Portuguese. CBEST, CSET, RICA, CTEL, and the new MIAA (I think that's the acronym) are Pearson products, but California still uses Praxis TFE exams to allow teachers in internships to test out of some credential-program coursework, and one of the two major TPA assessments for beginning teachers is a Praxis product.
     
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    I have just gotten the scores of 0061 Praxis content knowledge , and I passes with score 149 . The passing score in NJ is 137, but because of my GPA 2.5 , I needed 151 . What can I do now? is there an alternative road ? what do you advise?
     
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    test taker 63, my sympathies. I suspect that you'll need to retake 0061.
     
  13. chasisaac

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    :dizzy:

    You will need to retake the test. :(
    :sorry:
    THe Alternative method is ONLY for those without teaching school background on college. And they have to pass the praxis also. There is no getting around the Praxis.

    You have to reg for the next test by Thursday.

    Keep in mind you are most likely only one question away from passing, two at the most, but most likely one.

    Look at the chart on the last page. Where did you do the "worst" at. Put some time into that section. I realize that worst is a relative term.

    The good news. For the states that accept the Praxis, you can teach in all of them, except NJ. So if you are willing to move.
     
  14. zoroitaliano

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    Similar to testtaker 63 but not quite exact,

    I graduated in 2006 with BS in Math, my cum gpa was 2.85 which means my passing score for NJ is 137. I took the test and did not pass. I knew that I was not going to pass since it has been so long since I've seen the material and I used ets study guides, and a "professor created" study guides that had the same difficulty level as the actual test. Like most things in life, if material isn't used...its lost. So in preparation for this test, it will vary from person to person depending on your foundation, or how long it has been since seeing this material.
    The day of the test, I arrived nice and early, found the test room, and my first reaction was "wow these desks are small, where am I going to put all of the materials: graphing calculator, pencils, eraser, scrap sheets, test booklet, and sharpener". So I had no choice but to accommodate for these uncomfortable conditions. It took a bit of time for the test administrator to check each person's id and to deliver the test booklets. When I finally received the booklet, I scanned through the entire test as soon as the test administrator said begin. The surprise for me was noticing that every question was a lengthy word problem. When I say "lengthy" I mean too long for a limited 2.5 minutes you have to answer it. Some of the questions take longer than 2.5 minutes to read and actually understand the specifics. After leaving this test, aside from thinking "wow they created a difficult test and its suppose to measure your knowledge in the subject area," I was also thinking about my situation taking the SAT's while holding a 4.1 gpa. Just to think, I couldn't go to a top notch college because of 1 exam. As much as I disagree with these tests, I have no choice but to keep trying, so I registered for the March 10th exam. I have to honestly say, that I have to study to point where I think these difficult questions are elementary. For anyone taking this exam for a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, ... time, I recommend finding a lot more difficult study guides out there, and also get VERY familiar with your graphing calculator. Your Graphing Calculator is pretty much the Bible for this exam. If there are 3 ways to solve 1 question, and the Graphing Calculator is one way, USE IT!! What would have taken you minutes to solve a problem, may take you seconds using a graphing Calculator.

    As for me, I have lots of studying ahead. I have 2 more chances to pass it, if I want to teach Math in September, or else I will have to accept my plan B and become a special Ed teacher as it does not require a Praxis Score.
     
  15. chasisaac

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    Zoro -- two more times? I thought the 0061 (5061) was going computer based in June. That should give you at least one more shot at it.
     
  16. zoroitaliano

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    Well, Im going based on the alternate route scheduling with ets test dates... June will be too late for me to start the stage 1 & 2 of the alternate route program and I will not be on time to teach in September.
     
  17. chasisaac

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    Zoro -- look at this way. You have a leg up on everyone else taking the test.

    You have seen what the test has and know better than 1st timers what is on the test. That is a huge advantage.
     
  18. zoroitaliano

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    I'm not really sure about the one leg up, I'm also not the best test taker: I get nervous, my mind goes blank at times, ect.

    But yes, I am now aware of what I saw on there, and realize how fast I have to be for next time.

    The test is different each time you take it, so the only thing I can do is to prepare is study as many math problems with same difficulty level as the ones i remember from the exam.
     
  19. adjustments

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    Just walked out of today's Math CK. I was spanked so hard, I'm not sure I can sit. I graduated '85, Engineering and CompSci - took DiffyQ as an elective. I took the MS Math test 2 years ago, scored a 156, studied on and off for the lost 6 weeks. Thought I knew enough to pass. Now I'm not sure, I need a 147 here in VA. I am planning on starting my review for the April test on Monday - not sure if there is enough time though. I have only ever failed one standardized test, I think this is going to be #2 - unless I move :). Good luck to everyone else who took the test.
     
  20. zoroitaliano

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    I took it also for the 2nd time today. That test is not easy. Even if I were fresh out of college I would have struggled. I also have my personal hatred towards all ets standardized tests, I think every state should have their own similar to Florida. But these are the standards dealt , and the 0061 is no picnic. I wish I can take a praxis based on what I've learned in school . What I suggest is picking up a precalculus book and practice as many problems as possible. Also, a ti-89 or Nspire would be a great advantage in taking this exam.
     

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