Praxis II 5161

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  1. TeacherGroupie

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    Oho: those might not yet have been scored, then, which means they wouldn't have been included in your score. Hope springs eternal... and keep us posted, please.
     
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    Let's merge this with the thread on the Single Subject Tests subforum in which scores on Praxis 5161 were being discussed. (A to Z Forums policy discourages multiple threads at the same time on the same topic by the same poster. I realize, beekah, that you didn't launch that other thread - but this still counts as duplicate, I think.)

    10 out of 60 is fairly par-for-the-course in what Praxis calls "pre-test" questions - that is, questions that don't count against one's score.
     
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    But if that were the case wouldn't it come back and say NS?? I am so confused by the scoring :(
     
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    Also, for everyone that has taken the praxis 5161, has there final score report been out of 50 questions, not 60 questions?
     
  5. Infinity

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    My score was out of 50, I got 30 out of 50 three weeks ago and got a 152 score. I believe the test is always out of 50. The extra ten are just possible future praxis questions.

    I am bummed though that you got a 32 and didn't pass! I thought that would always be passing. So sorry! So now I am somewhat worried about tomorrow when I take it for the 2nd time. I didn't get the scaled score right away three weeks ago, I got the raw score and had to wait 2 weeks to get the scaled score. I wonder if something has changed recently with the test?
     
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    I was too...I thought a 32 was right on the 160, but I guess I am mistaken. I will keep you guys posted when I get my official if it is different. Chances are slim, because everyone says with an unofficial score it was their final score. Good Luck!
     
  7. Infinity

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    So I took praxis for the second time and got a raw score of 30 and scaled score of 150! :( I will be taking it again... I was surprised to see my scaled score since 3 weeks ago I wasn't able to. I think something has changed... Anyway I was feeling good about the test this time and I was surprised of my score... I stared at my score for a few minutes in disbelief that is was a 150 :( I'm trying to figure out if I could crossindorse in middle school math since I took praxis 5169 last year and passed with a 187. However I am being told that I have to take a middle school methods course!! I just took a secondary math methods course... They are telling me that it's not good for the middle school crossindorsement. I'm a little annoyed! I've taken 38 math credits including calculus 1, II, and III! I can't believe I didn't pass 5161 twice! :confused::confused:
     
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    I contacted ETS about that and was told the reason NS showed up for those testing during the June timeframe is a result of a new form of the test. If you already receive a scaled score, you are taking a form of the test that others have already taken.
     
  9. TeacherGroupie

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    Thanks for possting this, beekah.

    In Praxis-speak, a version of a test or subtest is called a "form". (Pearson seems somewhat likelier to refer to this as a "version" or an "edition" - but the point is that it bears the same number and is based on the same set of content standards as the previous form(s). Multiple forms or editions exist partly to discourage cheating and/or memorization of specific questions, but it also exists because no single form/edition/version of a test on subject matter X contains enough questions to touch on ALL of the key subject matter in the test specifications. This doesn't exclude the possibility that a certain question or a certain number of questions might show up in more than one form, of course - though it does confirm that it's still the case that exactly the same set of questions goes out to more than one test taker.
     
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    I just took the Praxis 5161 this weekend. Studied one day and got a 171, is that good?
     
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    Yes, that's really good! Obviously you haven't been out of the math game long! Congrats! Anything over a 160 is a passing grade for certification (some states 155).

    It's really frustrating to be taking this test after being out of the game for 15 years. It's all coming back to me slowly, but I've had to study my butt off since the end of May :( It's ruined my entire summer. Next test is August 10th, hopefully I can pass it this time and move on with my life! Fourth time's a charm?
     
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    Yes that's great!! I'm taking a break from it right now... I promised my kids that I wouldn't study for the rest of the summer! Trying to brush up on everything in two weeks was stressful... And when I didn't pass I was a bit upset... But I'll try again in a few months...
    How did you find the test? I didn't think it's overly hard so that's why I didn't think I didn't pass! Oh well, I guess I need work on my accuracy, I'm probably making errors during my calculations... Congrats on passing it!!! :)
     
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    I am confused. I just got my score report for the last test I took. The score was out of 49??? I'm confused because I thought it was always out of 50? Any ideas. Or has this ever happened to anyone? So I got a 30 out of 49, score 150. I'm so confused... Should I call and find out why??
     
  14. TeacherGroupie

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    It's fairly often the case, Infinity, that one or more questions are "non-scoring": they don't get counted against the test taker, because they're being field-tested for inclusion in a future version of the test.
     
  15. mathdotcom

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    took the test 5161 last month

    I got 33 out of 60 and sadly I got 158.
    I'll take the test again this Saturday, hoping to pass this time.
    I still remember at least 5 questions that I know I didn't answer correctly and those 5 were the easiest, I just got too excited when I was taking it, stupid me, for real!
     
  16. TeacherGroupie

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    Hugs, mathdotcom. You're far from the first person to whom that's happened. If you're good at conveying math concepts to the clueless, try taking the test as though you were there to coach someone else through it.

    And what's with this "stupid me" talk, hmmm?
     
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    thanks! :)
    I just regret those at least 5 questions that I got wrong and they were easy. I won't ever forget those problems.
     
  18. TeacherGroupie

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    I get that, mathdotcom, vividly - but *polite cough* would you let a student get away with that kind of language? If not, here's where you start modeling something better.
     
  19. Candace Lawrence

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    I failed it miserably the first time. Does anyone know if exam edge practice tests are a good indicator?
     
  20. Gnostradamus

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    No offense, but it's sad if math teachers (or those who want to be) can't get a passing grade. Goes to show so many places in America can't attract people with stronger content mastery to education. Partly that's because the pay and benefits are atrocious, the working environments are difficult from both the "clients" -- students -- and from the administrators and politicians.

    As for the complaints there's not enough time, I studied for about a week, after work. Barely got 2 practice tests under my belt. I don't know what I got yet but I'm sure I passed. If you don't have enough time, you're probably not seeing the questions in the right light. Taking the long route will waste a lot of time. If you know what you're doing, most questions don't take a long time to solve.

    As for topics jumping all over, that shouldn't matter if you're not formulaic. And really, if you're teaching a topic, you really should be able to see its meanings across grade levels. Slopes of lines are not rise over run, but a very simple example of the derivative function, and so on. Someone who struggles with that on PRAXIS probably will struggle to convey concepts correctly, instead relying on shortcuts and tricks. Students may get good enough scores on their tests, but will be stumped in higher level classes when those tricks no longer apply.
     

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