Praxis II 5161

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  1. mandateaches

    mandateaches New Member

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    Did you end up getting the ROE award? I just found out I passed with a 175 but it didn't mention anything about an award. Also, the praxis site that list the requirements for the ROE award still has not updated the mathematics test to 5161.
     
  2. hermanator1023

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    Does anyone have any suggestions for study materials? I've taken this test twice, 155 and 156 respectively. My main struggle is with the time. You barely get time to think. I've been all over the Khanacademy website, and purchased an old Praxis study guide with 3 practice tests. Honestly, I don't know what else to do. It seems I could study forever for this test and it wouldn't matter. Much of the difficulty is with the wording and time, not the calculations themselves. I'm taking it again the day after tomorrow, with any luck, for the last time! :dizzy:
     
  3. TeacherGroupie

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    Hugs, hermanator1023: I hope it's going/has gone better for you today. If not, let me recommend locating someone who's good at higher math but also skilled at teaching, say, SAT math: sounds like you might benefit from knowing some Sneaky Tricks In Math.
     
  4. Jack082014

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    Hi everybody. I have been monitoring this thread closely as I go through taking the 5161. Since scores released a few days ago, to give somewhat of a scale, I took the test in the beginning of June and received N.S. with 37 Raw. This scales to a 167. To put it in perspective, I took the 5161 LAST June and got a 28 Raw which scaled to 155. Needless to say, very relieved to have passed the exam. For those asking about study materials, I used the CliffNotes for 0061 (the tests aren't the same style, but the content is pretty parallel to what you'll see on the exam. I also used the study guide from ETS, (there's a few youtube channels that go through the questions, which were great because it showed different ways to tackle the questions). Also used the REA Praxis 2 Math, again there are useful ideas in the review of the book which helped on the exam. Finally I used the tests from Praxis 2Math com. These were extremely useful as the Trig Tests were worth their weight in gold. Besides those, I used Khan Academy videos as a great review session. On the tests from the study books, if I didn't understand a question, watch the Khan videos relating to that topic so you become knowledgeable on the ENTIRE concept.

    Hermanator1023, I thought the same thing as you, but just be confident and eventually something will click, like it did for me. Know your concepts, not just memorizing formulas and knowing when to use them. Good luck, it'll eventually work itself out. I remember coming out of the test last year saying to my wife, I will never be able to pass this thing, and yet it worked out.
     
  5. Eng2MathTeach

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    I'm with Jack082014, I also have been monitoring this thread closely as I was going to take Praxis II 5161 for my first time, took the test 6/26/15 and received my scores over the weekend. At the end of the exam, I was shown a raw score of 41. When I received my score report this past weekend, it also showed a raw score of 41, and that was out of 50 questions. So the raw score that you get at the end of the exam seems to be the questions you got correct of the 50 questions that are being counted, not including whatever questions you got correct of the non-score test questions (there were 60 questions on the test). My scaled score was a 178. I didn't get anything about an ROE (not that I'm assuming that I would get one), but from what I'm seeing online, ROE's aren't given for the 5161, not sure if they're going to update or not.

    My main struggle was also with time. I highly recommend going through EVERY TOPIC on ETS' free Study Companion. Go through old books and find the topic and go through any section covering that topic and go over example problems. If you don't have a book that covers the topic, google it. Give yourself enough time to go through EVERY topic in the Study Companion, and then time to review everything. Good luck to everyone!!!
     
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    Hello everyone, I plan to take this test Saturday and was wondering if I could use my own calculator.
     
  7. hermanator1023

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    Thanks ladies & gents, I'm very sad to report that I've failed it again. I thought I had it this time. 50 questions into it, I was golden, then perhaps 0/10 on the last ten. Whoever made that test was a real jerk! lol...So far I've taken the test 3 times (Raw Score/Actual score) 29/156, 31/155, 31/153 (yesterday)...the test has been way different each time. The first time, there were tons of logarithms, that's what killed me. So, I studied logarithms like a trooper, then hardly any logarithms on the second test. My main struggle was with some of the derivatives/integration by parts stuff. I got that sorted pretty well and then the test yesterday has none of it. My problem was mostly time. I had 28 mins to do the last ten questions, but of the final ten questions, 6 or 7 were those multi-answer ones and with time winding down, I definitely cracked under the pressure. Then, I was so irritated at the end of the test that I clicked "continue" to get to my scores right away and it brought me to and entirely new section. 10 more questions over 30 more minutes of complete agony. I don't even know what it was, I just wanted to get outta there. My concentration and patience were gone. That's the issue I have with this test, there's no consistency whatsoever. I could study like crazy for the next month and I'd be no better off than if I took it again tomorrow. Like Jack082014 said, something's just got to click and last the entire 60 questions.

    I absolutely hate this whole thing and really don't see how answering 60 math problems over 2.5 hours rather than say 4 hours would make me a better math teacher. Feeling super-frustrated.
     
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    Re: Calculator

    @FutureMathTeach, yes you can, but it has to be of a certain type and they will clear all the memory before your test. Check the ETS website for details.

    Good luck with the test!
     
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    Thanks for the advice. It's difficult though here in Korea. Hard to find a Math teacher that speaks English. I agree that I have to find some of those "sneaky tricks" though!
     
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    Can I borrow your brain for my next test? lol
    I've tried going through that list, but it's as hard to decipher as some of the word problems they write on the test. Gonna take it again in 3 weeks. What resources did you use to study all those topics? I was trying not to purchase too many study guides or practice tests online, but I might have to pull out all the stops for this one!
     
  11. FutureMathTeach

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    Thank you hermanator1023! I have a TI-84 plus and a TI NSpire CX CAS and didn't know which one to bring. I think I'll bring both just in case. Hopefully, all goes well!
     
  12. Jack082014

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    Know your calculator too. This saved me a massive amount of time knowing how to do the long drawn out stuff with a few calculator strokes. Good luck next time.
     
  13. Infinity

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    I took the test 3 weeks ago and unfortunately didn't pass. When I was at the testing center the lady there asked if I had my calculator with me!!!! Her paper work said calculator permitted... Anyway I was under the impression I couldn't take my calculator. I didn't pass because of timing. I was too slow and had to guess on the last 10 questions.
    I'm taking it again on Wednesday and been practicing and studying for two weeks straight... The last few days I've been studying for about 10-12 hours a day... I know a bit obsessed. I didn't pas by 2 questions the last time, I got a raw score of 30. :( so I am determined to pass and hopefully I will. I'm so nervous about it though. I'm happy to use my calculator though! Good luck to all of you taking this test! Or any praxis test... They are so stressful!
     
  14. beekah10

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    I just took the math praxis 5161 today, and received a scaled score and a raw score. I was under the impression that a 32 was sort of the passing raw score, but maybe not?? I got a 32 but then received a scaled score of 155...any insight?? Is there a chance I could get the 160 or should I just start preparing now.. :(
     
  15. TeacherGroupie

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    I think Praxis doesn't issue a scaled score until every question on the test is scored. Hugs, beekah10.
     
  16. beekah10

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    Should I expect that I did not pass? It seemed that a 32 raw score was key, but my test showed it equating to 155...
     
  17. TeacherGroupie

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    Scaled scoring is intended to compensate, among other things, for differences in difficulty among questions and among tests overall: the idea is that a score of 155 should reflect the same level of accomplishment no matter which version of the test a test taker took. In practical terms, what this means is that some questions count more than others (and, of course, some count less).

    Were there questions that weren't standard A-B-C-D multiple choice?
     
  18. beekah10

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    Yeah. I had pick all that apply and questions where I had to type in an answer.
     
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    Praxis 5161 Scoring

    I recently took the math praxis 5161 and received a raw score of 32 with an unofficial scaled score of 155. Has anyone ever been given an unofficial and received a higher score officially? Everything I read seemed to indicate that 32 was passing, but it looks like that is not the case. Also, the test is out of 60 questions, but when I took it before my score report was out of 50..so each time you take the test are they taking the questions out of 50?
     
  20. mathteachertobe

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    My unofficial and official scores were the same. I've heard of 1 or 2 point changes, but it is pretty unusual.

    Some of the questions are trial questions for future tests and not part of your score. It might be 10, though that does seem a little high.

    Good luck.
     

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