New Art teacher here ... Is Art taught as instructional or creative in your school?

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  1. intojunque

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    When giving directions are student allowed self expression and personal leeway with teacher instructions. Or are all students expected to follow step by step as exact as their skill will permit. Any deviation from teacher instructions are discouraged. OR are students taught to explore possibilities after instruction... In other words when presenting a lesson would you say ..Example A "These are examples of a radial design... Please pick up the large red circle and glue to the center of the your black paper ... Using your ruler divide the circle in half and quarters.. these are pie lines . Next using the yellow paper cut 4 1/4 inch wide x 4 inches long paper lines and glue on the pie lines we've marked. Last using the 8 green triangles, place and glue 2 of them side by side in the area between each yellow pie space .... "Example B "These are examples of a radial design...A design with diverging in lines from a common center. Lesson: use cut paper to create a radial design.. Remember the design is a pattern of it's self and repeats all the way around" ..... Which way would you present a lesson ??? From Elementary to Middle and High School grades .. Thank you this has been a Department debate ...
     
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    I think out art is a combination. We have a lesson and following the lesson is an art project. While we encourage no deviations we do not strictly enforce it and allow the students to be creative in their own ways.
     
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    I would say that Art is both. With that said, elementary art class is heavily creative-oriented, but art is also used as instructional time for curriculum delivery purposes.
    A few years ago, when my class had art, my students were graded on completion of work. They could create whatever they wanted. It was lovely when some students were working on painting, some were working on ceramics, and some paper mache.
    In my school, most classrooms have Art.
     
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    Hey .. Do any of you use "pinterest" as a curriculum guide? Did you write your own curriculum?? What standards did you follow? Thanks
     
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    My art colleague follows state standards and infuses creativity within those standards.
     
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    Your school should have a curriculum guide that you are obligated to follow. Standards are state standards, curriculum guide is how your school has written the curriculum to best respond to the state standards and be in compliance. OP, I would suggest you check this out at the district and state level instead of creating a hodge podge approach based on what you find on pinterest. Just my humble opinion, however . . .
     
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    Awesome !! Thank you !!!
     
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    Thank you so much ... This is what I've been trying to tell the school .. Wonderful !!!! Pinterest is fun but not for a full time classroom !!
     
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    Our High School where I work has varying art classes, all with an element of creativity and academia. For example, we have Art 1 for freshman which is basically art history with some projects thrown in. Art 2 is Mixed media so they are learning about the origin of different medias, when to use lighting, proper technique for oils, etc.

    Art 3 & 4 are practicum art classes with actual creative works that are auctioned at the end of the year and Art 4 has a focus on professional art management (one project is they have to create and run a fictitious art gallery) etc. So I would say it's a combination.
     
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    Classes beyond middle/high school tend to be differentiated. I took both process and academic in college- hands on ceramics and drawing, academic classes in music and art history
     
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    This sounds wonderful .... I have a mix of Middle School and High School students in the same class ... it's been difficult to create a program that will manage all ages at once.. Thanks for your answer !!
     
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    I learn far toward the creative, explorative approach. There are times when I will introduce a material and give them specific techniques to practice and/or steps, but this is never the end result, instead it is a means to an end.
    For example, I will introduce watercolor by letting them just explore and play for a bit (explorations), then I will teach them several specific techniques and they practice them. Then I will have them do a small practice painting of a specific thing with specific steps so they can understand how certain techniques might be applied. Then they will create a watercolor painting of whatever they wish, but they need to use a certain number of the techniques they learned. Students sometimes have trouble going out on their own, but they need to apply their learning or they will forget it. And they need to care about what it is they are making.
    In my opinion, giving students pre-determined results without any creative freedom is the most inauthentic way to teach art. No working artist that I can think of has gotten any recognition from following someone else's directions. They may learn techniques and borrow ideas from other artists, but they always find a new way of using what they know. That's what makes an artist special and worth appreciating.
     
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    You've brought tears to my eyes ... This answer is wonderful ... each student is unique with in their personal skill set, imagination and creativity ... but need instructions in techniques... Thank you so much for putting this so plainly. I don't enjoy teaching "canned " Art LOL !!!! You've clearly explained why... Thank you !
     
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    New QUESTION : Has any one taught Middle & High School from an Art Cart .. I'll have about 120 students not sure if it 45 min. per day or 90 min. every other day ... Any ideas as to HOW to do this
    lol ????
     
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    It is pretty sweet! Plus, I have my eye on a Russian Blue Cat pop-art portrait a student did :) It will be auctioned at the end of the year!
     
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    Wow!! LOL I asked my students about an auction LOL.. well they laughed at me ... Guess they don't feel ready this year LOL !! Wish you could share student Art pictures !! Good luck with your bidding! Thanks !
     
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    If I win it I will post it :)
     
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    Awesome !
     
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    Hello intojunque,

    This is a great question! Structure or freedom... and as others have said and you already know, of course, the answer is a balance of both.

    I teach HS Art 1- Art 4, Crafts, and Ceramics. Some of my students are VERY serious art students and some of them did not even choose to take the class. How do give each student what they need? The answer- balance.

    For example, most of my projects take 4 to 5- 90 minute class blocks to complete. Day 1, we talk about content and techniques. So, for example, if we are on a pastel unit, we might cover color theory and pastel techniques. We will perform a guided practice where students practice the technique of using pastel and mixing color. This is all structure with little choice. Day 2, they begin to research and then design their original composition. Here, they are meant to operate as practicing artists. Original content only- ie freedom. They now have some knowledge of the media, and can make the work as simple or complex as they choose based on their confidence in their skill with the media. Day 3 and most of 4 they are making the work and giving feedback to their peers about the progress of the work.

    Perhaps even more importantly, as you begin to get to know your students, you will get a sense for who craves more structure and who is dying to be let loose. You can make adjustments for individuals accordingly. On days 3 and 4 I might do some small group technique demos, but let the folks who are off to the races sit those out.
     

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