Need Help Passing the Praxis II 5169

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  1. Acamp

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    May 18, 2018

    Hello and thank you! What happens if you get any of those “field tested” questions correct - does it boost your score?

    And lastly, even though they don’t count those 10, will the final score be counted out of 45 or 55 questions? Thanks!
     
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    Do those questions boost your score? Not that I know of. But both Praxis and Pearson are notoriously cagey about some things, and this is one of them.

    The score that matters is the scaled score, and it is definitely based on the number of questions that count.
     
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    Yes scaled is based on the number that count. But is that number out of 45 of 55 total questions? Because 45 total questions would be weighed a lot more than 55 total questions.
     
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    Let me try again:

    If a question isn't counted, points from it are excluded when calculating the scaled score. This is true for every Praxis test with which I'm acquainted and every Pearson teacher test with which I'm acquainted. It's also true that excluding questions that don't count isn't the only reason that questions and even versions of a test are differentially weighted. Weighting can and does vary from version to version of the same test. That's why any claim that raw score x necessarily correlates to scaled score y should be viewed with skepticism.

    I don't keep notes for either Praxis or Pearson tests in general of the number of questions in a given test that aren't counted, so I can neither confirm nor deny that 45 is the number on which the scaled score for 5169 is based. But I can certainly affirm that, where n is the number of questions in a Praxis selected response test and c is the number of questions that don't count, the number of questions that will count toward the scaled score is nc. The scale will still run from 100 to 200, of course.
     
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    Thank you for your time and replies. I wasn’t trying to be difficult but rather just trying to make sense of the scoring.
     
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    The scoring is indeed complicated, Acamp. Hugs to you. The mapping from raw points to scaled score is not one-to-one - but does it help settle your unsettledness if I point out that a scaled score of 165 isn't on a scale from 0 to 200 but rather on a scale from 100 to 200? That is, it is possible to pass a teacher test with a score that would have been near or at failing on any end-of-course test you've ever taken.
     
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    May 23, 2018

    Good morning!
    I also took your advice and am now using the cliffnotes study book. I took all 3 official ETS practice tests, the 4 REA practice tests, and 2 out of the 3 cliffnotes practice tests. And yes, CN does seem confusing than the other exams - hopefully it helps me on Saturday!

    Question though - if I am getting 28 or more right on all of these practice tests from the books above, is that looking promising for a 157 score or above? Or probably not? Just wanted to know your (or anyone else’s) thoughts on that for scoring.

    Thank you!
     
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    That depends on the 28 and I'm not aware of the reference range. Like most of the books suggest, look at your percentages and compare them to the percentage range a 157 pulls.
     

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