Discussion in 'General Education' started by blazer, Apr 14, 2018 at 6:05 PM.
Apr 14, 2018 at 6:05 PM
Apr 14, 2018 at 6:50 PM
Wow! A 20%, that’s crazy! I only am getting a little over a 9% raise this year ($5,000 increase). However, it doesn’t say how the governor of Arizona is going to fund it and no new legislation has been put forward, according to the article.
With that said, this is absolutely fantastic for Arizona teachers! I hope that the governor follows through and passes a bill that will give teachers the salary increases they truly deserve.
I wonder what a certain user on here — who is studying to be a reading specialist in NY — has to say about this. And right after he left...
Apr 14, 2018 at 7:21 PM
A 20% raise in Arizona still wouldn't get me close to what I'm currently earning. I'll go ahead and say oh heck no to that.
That's putting aside the fact that raising teacher salaries without also increasing funding for things like classroom materials and building upkeep will do exactly nothing.
Apr 14, 2018 at 7:41 PM
I’m curious, what do you currently make?
Apr 14, 2018 at 7:56 PM
20% is the total for over 3 years. The average then would be about 6.7%/ year. A very good raise, but just want to make sure the facts are more accurate.
Apr 14, 2018 at 9:54 PM
This is interesting, family is considering moving to AZ in five years or so.....
Apr 14, 2018 at 10:12 PM
My base salary is $66k, before adding in about $10k from various other optional commitments (mentoring, ESY, summer curriculum, etc).
Apr 15, 2018 at 12:11 AM
Nice! How many years have you been teaching?
Apr 15, 2018 at 12:12 AM
Thanks for the clarification! I thought 20% seemed pretty steep and untenable, to be honest.
Apr 15, 2018 at 8:31 AM
Pay ISN'T the only issue!!! As a teacher who worked there I can personally attest to this fact. The schools are severely under funded and staffed. We didn't have updated curriculum, technology or the necessary teachers to even do the job and there's no job protections/ union or tenure that will save you if a parent files some BS complaint or a petty administrator comes gunning for you. I'm sorry but in THIS profession you need that. My teacher friend who came out of retirement to help the district was "walked out'' (with no real explanation or notice) leaving her entire fourth grade class without a permanent teacher for the last two months of school. They were "taught'' by subs coming in and out and bounced around from classroom to classroom just to keep them supervised. If you live in a teacher - friendly state, STAY THERE, and only go to AZ if you are desperate for a job. I'm using it as an absolute LAST resort! If they brought back tenure, then we'll talk.
Apr 15, 2018 at 8:39 AM
YES!!! It just means that the teachers will have a little bit more money to buy MORE supplies out of their own pockets. That doesn't sound great to me.
Apr 15, 2018 at 2:04 PM
This is year number 9, with MA+30.
Apr 15, 2018 at 4:53 PM
Arizona is one of those states that slashed and burned its education budget after the Great Recession. Here are some old stats. So, even though the 20% raise over 3 years sounds great, it looks more like finally trying to get back to pre-recession.
> Pct. chg. per pupil spending (FY08-FY15): -17.5%
> FY15 per pupil spending: $3,114 (6th lowest)
> Decline in per pupil spending (FY08-FY15): $663 (10th largest)
> Adults with bachelor's degree: 27.4% (22nd lowest)
Apr 15, 2018 at 6:54 PM
Wow! That is not great, now that you put it...
Apr 16, 2018 at 9:16 AM
Even with the raises they're slated to get, they're still grossly underpaid.
My cousin works as an AP in Phoenix (with much more experience than I possess) and earns nearly 50k less than I do. Taking a look at their teacher salary in that same district, I'm appalled: https://phxschools.org/wp-content/u...dule-2017-2018-Certified-Teacher-Stepless.pdf
Apr 16, 2018 at 9:46 AM
Yup and that's pretty much the universal salary schedule in Arizona. There are some districts where the starting or performance pay might bump you up a little, but yeah...
Apr 16, 2018 at 9:56 AM
Husband is considering moving to Arizona because his field pays pretty well there. But what about me?
Though I confess I am a desert girl anyway...
Apr 16, 2018 at 1:13 PM
Whoa! I already make more as a 7th year teacher than the MAXIMUM a teacher could make at my level in Phoenix. Gross.
Apr 16, 2018 at 2:18 PM
Yeah you definitely don't teach in AZ for the money. So I love to laugh when people make that argument about ''lazy'' or "money hungry" teachers...
Apr 16, 2018 at 2:53 PM
Their minimum max (?) is the new starting in my state.
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