Measles outbreak

Discussion in 'General Education' started by czacza, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. czacza

    czacza Multitudinous

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2001
    Messages:
    24,886
    Likes Received:
    2,016

    Apr 27, 2019

    Are there measles outbreaks in your state? It’s becoming a huge issue in my area. Mostly concentrated in the Orthodox Jewish communities, but also in other ‘anti vax’ groups.:eek: Theres a few kids in my school who are not vaccinated. Considering having my immunities checked as my immunizations were over 40 years ago...
     
  2.  
  3. jadorelafrance

    jadorelafrance Cohort

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2015
    Messages:
    616
    Likes Received:
    250

    Apr 27, 2019

    Did you have two vaccines? If so, you should be set for life. It’s like 3% chance of contracting measles if you had both vaccines. I supposed it wouldn’t hurt to get a booster but it’s probably not necessary. I really feel bad for the kids that cannot get vaccinated for health reasons. It’s not fair to them.
     
  4. czacza

    czacza Multitudinous

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2001
    Messages:
    24,886
    Likes Received:
    2,016

    Apr 27, 2019

    The kids in my school have parents who claim ‘religious exemption’ despite not being of a religion that takes a stand on vaccinations. It’s mostly anti vax hive mentality based on fear and misinformation. Puts those who have no immunities due to health issues at risk (I have a colleague and at least one student in school in this situation due to chemo therapy)
     
  5. jadorelafrance

    jadorelafrance Cohort

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2015
    Messages:
    616
    Likes Received:
    250

    Apr 27, 2019

    That’s sad and infringes on their rights. Why do people feel like their right to be unvaccinated trumps the rights of those who have health issues and can possibly get extremely ill or die? It’s wrong. TBH I would feel extremely responsible and awful if I got someone ill or even killed from something I had and could have prevented.
     
  6. rpan

    rpan Cohort

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2017
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    450

    Apr 27, 2019

    Its a problem even here in Australia. I went to get my second MMR vaccination a month ago after a student had the measles. I’m not too fond of needles but the alternative is far worse! A couple of years ago I had my chicken pox vaccination after a student had chicken pox and a whooping cough vaccination after a student with whooping cough coughed in my direction.
     
  7. Ima Teacher

    Ima Teacher Maven

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2005
    Messages:
    5,241
    Likes Received:
    747

    Apr 27, 2019

    We haven’t had measles here, but we have had several outbreaks of whooping cough and hepatitis A.

    I’ve had all of my immunizations, and then I had them redone because of some chronic health issues. My immune system was compromised, so my doctor recommended redoing my immunizations.
     
  8. kellzy

    kellzy Comrade

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2013
    Messages:
    313
    Likes Received:
    84

    Apr 27, 2019

    We regularly have measles problems, but right now mumps is making its way towards us.
     
  9. vickilyn

    vickilyn Guru

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2014
    Messages:
    8,314
    Likes Received:
    2,060

    Apr 27, 2019

    The problem with those that don't vaccinate is that depending on the numbers, you finally reach the point where the "herd health immunity" that protects the entire population fails. I think that the vaccinated number has to be 93% to 95%. Figure a tiny percentage of vaccination fails, then another number where the vaccinations are improperly given, added to those who medically can't be vaccinated for whatever reasons, and you start to see that there isn't a ton of wiggle room. As long as those who could be vaccinated without incident are properly vaccinated, herd health will protect those who medically can't be vaccinated and the ones who have vaccination fails for whatever reason. When people find ways to skirt vaccination, it potentially hurts us all.

    https://www.who.int/immunization/sage/meetings/2017/october/2._target_immunity_levels_FUNK.pdf

    written in stone.jpg
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2019
    ms.irene and SpecialPreskoo like this.
  10. Backroads

    Backroads Aficionado

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2010
    Messages:
    3,068
    Likes Received:
    1,416

    Apr 27, 2019

    Not in my area, but I heard tale of mumps in other parts of the state.

    Sadly, in my state and even my faith, we have a lot of people who lean toward "crunchy" (namely the classic upper-middle class moms) so I am rather nervous.
     
  11. miss-m

    miss-m Devotee

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    1,001
    Likes Received:
    429

    Apr 28, 2019

    My state hasn't had any outbreaks that I know of, but this thread made me realize that I need to get my MMR booster! My last one was in 1996 and a good chunk of my class now is not vaccinated...
     
  12. TeacherNY

    TeacherNY Phenom

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2008
    Messages:
    4,102
    Likes Received:
    811

    Apr 29, 2019

    I have heard of some cases. I read that if you are over 40 you might need another vaccination but I have no idea if I had 2 shots or 1!
     
  13. vickilyn

    vickilyn Guru

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2014
    Messages:
    8,314
    Likes Received:
    2,060

    Apr 29, 2019

    I know the criteria they are using is past vaccination records, but if you are past a certain age, with parents gone, that information may not be available. I sometimes think, as a teacher, I would prefer safe over sorry, but would ask my family doctor what he thinks, and then make up my mind. I don't know what the criteria would be for antibody titers, nor do I know if there is a difference between having had the disease versus being vaccinated for the disease. Then there is the problem of not knowing which measles you may have had as a kid, if unvaccinated due to having had "measles". You can see why you may want to talk to a doctor you trust.
     
  14. czacza

    czacza Multitudinous

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2001
    Messages:
    24,886
    Likes Received:
    2,016

    May 12, 2019

    My colleague (age 58) just had her titers run. Her immunities are intact from childhood immunizations.
     
  15. teacherintexas

    teacherintexas Maven

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    5,255
    Likes Received:
    710

    May 12, 2019

    My stepdaughter (19) has had hers done for nursing school. She has to get her MMR set done again. She was fully immunized as a child.

    That’s just scary.
     
  16. vickilyn

    vickilyn Guru

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2014
    Messages:
    8,314
    Likes Received:
    2,060

    May 12, 2019

    Doing the titers really shows that while there are guidelines, not everyone will respond with optimum protection. This is where herd health comes in to play. However, when those numbers start to drop, individual immunity becomes much more important. In this case, an adult was able to receive vaccination for prevention of disease. That said, what if this was someone who couldn't be vaccinated for some reason? It should give us all reason to pause and consider the ramifications for anyone who either can't be vaccinated, or who has less than stellar immunity, probably unknown to themselves, and maybe even their doctors. What the vaccines ought to do is dependent upon the person's immune system and correct timing of the vaccinations. There are many reasons for a vaccination to fail - improper administration, defective/poorly stored vaccine, or even the fact that a person may be fighting off another disease at the time of vaccination, causing improper vaccination results. If in doubt, check with your doctors about doing titers to determine your safety.
     
    czacza likes this.

Share This Page

Members Online Now

  1. zmp2018,
  2. DouglasFulk,
  3. Alexander Scaddan,
  4. txmomteacher2,
  5. waterfall,
  6. TeacherNY
Total: 389 (members: 11, guests: 334, robots: 44)
test