Discussion in 'Substitute Teachers' started by Mr Magoo, Dec 2, 2016.
Dec 2, 2016
I couldn't do that. My grades need to reflect student mastery of the concepts, not how quickly they hand in a paper.
I understand what you are saying. I will say though that I have done this before when I see several students not doing what they are supposed to be doing. For example, I have a warm up that I have on my board every day when the students enter. If I notice several in the class not doing it, I might collect the work and put a time limit on collecting it because once I say I am collecting it, it is too late to begin working. One minute is plenty of time to tear a paper out of your notebook and put your name on it. It is not enough time to answer the questions. I don't do this often, and usually I don't put it in the gradebook, but I can say that it makes students do the work the next time.
I am not saying that grades should not reflect mastery, and I understand the whole behavior issue versus an academic issue thing. That is why I don't put these grades in the gradebook. However, I also want to reward those who put in effort and discourage laziness.
Feb 5, 2017
OP is citing how that teacher is making students responsible for their education. Students should be trained how to abide deadlines and be accountable. In the long run, when they turn into adults, they will know how to work hard and be responsible because they realize that they have to pay their bills on time otherwise exceeding the deadline with result in service interruption or not turning-in work for their bosses with result in termination. Please, enough with this bs cuddling like their parents do. We need to teach our students that habit of doing work and completing them timely. As teachers, do we even tell our P, I need to master the skill of classroom management before they visit us for evaluation? No, we try as much as possible how to make things work to our advantage sometimes by experimenting things, changing our methods, or asking for advice from coaches or co-teachers because we cannot say "NO, I'm not yet ready".
I think a deadline of 'the end of class' is acceptable for classwork and setting time limits on assessments makes sense as that would follow the standardized testing format. I wouldn't set multiple time limits within one class period, however...I would have concerns that students would rush and not put forth their best efforts.
I think it's effective to teach students about meeting deadlines/time limits to prepare them for real life, but not if it's set on excessive busywork. I've actually seen teachers and nuns set time limits for classwork after having given the students huge papers to do for homework the night before which leads to burning the students out. And, fail the students if they didn't turn it in by the end of the period. I do think an acceptable portion of the grade should reflect effort/participation. I use different weights for assignments in the different courses I instruct. This is usually based upon how difficult or time consuming the classwork is. I don't want to award good grades for just simply completing bookwork. I usually set 25-40% for classwork and in-class projects.
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