Home Plate

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  1. Aces

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    I wanted to share a bit of wisdom from John Scolinos. In 1996, he asked 4,000 baseball coaches "How wide is home Plate?". 17 inches. No matter the league or the age, 17". When a pitcher steps up to the plate and can't get it to home, we don't widen the plate for them. We hold them to 17".

    When our students fail to meet our standards, do we change the standard? Or do we hold them accountable and coach them to standard?

    Don't widen the plate.

    You can read the full snippet here although I've seen it elsewhere.
     
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    Absolutely! But in today’s educational climate, the standard often gets diluted because it suddenly is “too hard”. Never you mind that millions and millions of students have been meeting said standard for decades, but now it causes <insert politically correct nonsense> and so it must be done away with because equity/discrimination! :rolleyes:

    This is what I tell all my students who complain: I point to my Nike poster and repeat their catchmark phrase: Just Do It.
     
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    I Love this!
     
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    She is offering a rebuttal to your claim that the specifications in baseball are fixed and not malleable.

    According to the link, “Any individual with a physical or intellectual challenge may participate. If an individual can participate in the traditional Little League Baseball or Softball program with reasonable accommodations they should do so. The Little League Challenger Division accommodates players ages 4 to 18; or up to age 22 if still enrolled in school. The Senior League Challenger Division accommodates players ages 15 and above (no maximum age).”

    But where czacza’s rebuttal falls flat is that accommodations are not made for major league sports in the REAL world and school-type sheltered settings are not indicative of the real world. This is why colleges and employers nationwide keep saying that incoming students cannot critically think, they engage in group think, they cannot cope with difficulty and strife, they cannot work independently, and the list goes on and on.
     
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    Home plate is still 17" across.

    Edit: even to add to that, there's a difference between raising a student to the standard and changing the standard for the student. And yes, I realize that accommodations are made in the challenger league for inclusiveness. However, home plate is the same size (I've coached a challenger league team).
     
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    The question posted by the OP was:
    When our students fail to meet our standards, do we change the standard? Or do we hold them accountable and coach them to standard?
    Some kids need different goals than the ‘typical’ learner.
     
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    But the point remains we build them up. We make accommodations for them in order to get them to standard. We build them, we don't cut home plate in half.
     
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    Cough, teacher licensing exams, cough.
     

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