Ever had a sociopath for a student

Discussion in 'General Education' started by akconnel, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. futuremathsprof

    futuremathsprof Aficionado

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    Um, you can speculate all you like, but I only read the one aforementioned article from Mayo Clinic.

    Also, here is another article from said clinic that says Antiosocial Personality Disorder is “typically” diagnosed for people under the age of 18.

    “Though typically antisocial personality disorder isn't diagnosed before age 18, some signs and symptoms may occur in childhood or the early teen years. Usually there is evidence of conduct disorder symptoms before age 15.

    Identifying antisocial personality disorder early may help improve long-term outcomes.”



    There seems to be conflicting information out there... Hmm. I guess it’s Conduct Disorder before 18 and Antiosocial Personality Disorder/Sociopathy from 18 onward.
  2. a2z

    a2z Maven

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    Please post the link that says IS typically diagnosed... your post claims this article exists. Everything your posting and linking says isn't.
  3. Linguist92021

    Linguist92021 Phenom

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    I have dated a sociopath. Narcissistic sociopath, although when I met him I knew nothing of the matter, but during the 13 months of being with him, and the year after him I have learned a great deal of narcs. I could say I consider myself an expert, if I say so myself lol (he was a true textbook case and I have learned so much).
    Having said that, I have had many, many students who will unfortunately grow up to be sociopaths. I work with at-risk students so I know the percentage is higher than average. Not one specific case comes to mind, probably because I'm on vacation, but just to think about the lives my students live and have experienced from birth, how can 50 % of them not grow up with a personality disorder?

    The most common and observable symptom in my opinion is lack of empathy, and most of my students greatly lack that. Unfortunately you can't teach it, growing up without consistent and real love will do that. I would say most of the students in juvenile hall are due to lacking empathy. Yes, some are there due to gang affiliation and violating probation terms, but most other crimes obviously show a lack of empathy: murder, attempted murder, rape, assault (homeless men, innocent people, not fighting each other), robbery and car theft. Even car theft shows lack of empathy.

    The real question is what can we do to help these kids and somehow help them become better people?
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  4. 3Sons

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    This is a very sloppy way of looking at it, which I think stems from a lack of understanding of the reason APD isn't diagnosed prior to 18.

    Keep in mind the statement, "Adult sufferers of APD show signs of conduct disorder as children" does NOT, NOT, NOT mean that children with conduct disorder will necessarily grow up to be adults with APD.

    The idea isn't to ensure that sufferers of APD can all vote. The idea is that a child's personality is not fully formed, and behavior that would look like APD in an adult could be a temporary vicissitude in a child. Imagine, for instance, if you extended diagnoses down to infants -- they all have no regard for the feelings of others, are demanding and narcissistic, and have virtually no behavioral control. A young child isn't really much different -- they've obviously progressed since infancy, but they're not just small adults.

    Also, Psychology Today is pop psychology, not serious academia. I suggest you avoid relying on it.
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