English CSET

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  1. TeacherGroupie

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    Not a problem, CurioNic. I've taken the liberty of editing the traceable information out of your post. Do make sure you look through the whole thread... and if the files misbehave, let us know, okay?
     
  2. CurioNic

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    Thanks for your understanding! :blush: Those files were on their very best behavior, and are- I can already tell- (and as touted by so many) a marvelous resource! :)
     
  3. TeacherGroupie

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    Oh, excellent: I'm glad I don't have to send them to their room.
     
  4. KappaLove15

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    Hi all!

    Ok I am a little confused. Today I am supposed to receive my unofficial CSET scores at 5 pm. To my surprise, I already have 4 emails from CSET. Only one of them says "pass". The others just have the title of the exam (for example, one email just says "105 English Subtest 1").

    So I went to the website, entered my ID information, and viewed my unofficial scores that way. All four subtests say "Passing Status: Pass".

    Should I be celebrating right now? Or should I be back to studying? I realize this question may seem silly, but I can hardly believe I passed them all on my first try and I don't want to get my hopes up if I am reading something incorrectly somewhere.
     
  5. TeacherGroupie

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    It's fairly common that CSET results come out several hours before they're scheduled to, and it's not all that uncommon for a test taker to nail all four CSET English subtests on the first go.

    If you want to hedge your bets, you could wait a few days for the official printed score report to come through... but I've never, ever heard of someone getting preliminary reports that said PASS and then official reports that didn't.

    Congratulations, and well done!
     
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    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

    I couldn't have done it without the great advice I found on here!
     
  7. TeacherGroupie

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    (chuckling)

    You're welcome! You're welcome! You're welcome!

    For maximum value from this exercise, think about what you've learned in it that can help you help your future students. This could be content, but it could also perfectly well be test-taking process, or ways to motivate oneself to study, or further confirmation that feelings of fear and probably failure are normal but usually not justified, or... you get the idea.
     
  8. kitteh

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    Hey All! I've been reading up on a few of the threads here and I definitely agree that this website has been invaluable in my search for study resources. I've already downloaded and printed Elmer's guides and I picked up the XAM Study Guide for English 105,106, and 107. I've only just begun to study and I plan to take all four subtests on Jan 9th which gives me roughly 5 weeks in which to prepare. I recently graduated from UCLA with a Comparative Lit BA, although I started off as an English major and continued to take most of the core classes needed for the English major in order to fulfill my english-language reqs for the Comp Lit degree.

    I have a couple of questions though. TeacherGroupie (first of all--are you male or female? I've been reading you as male but I suddenly realized that I don't really have any basis for that assumption!) anyhow, you suggested that another poster check with the credential analyst at their county office of education to see if they can credential-out of taking the test. First of all, do you know if it is possible to credential out of the subtests individually or is it only as a whole that the CSET can be avoided? Also, am I right in assuming that the credential analyst is separate from the university from which one's degree was earned? I ask because I called the English department at UCLA and was informed that they have discontinued the waiver program which students used to follow to avoid the CSET. Does this mean I'm entirely out of luck or might I still have a chance to avoid one or more of the subtests?

    I don't have to pass all four tests on the 9th but I did have to register for all of them in order to apply for UCLA's Masters and credential program. Of course, if I am unable to credential out of the test(s) and eventually have to pass them all I'd rather do so on the 9th. Unfortunately I'll be 37 weeks pregnant by the time of the test and sitting in any position for 5 hours will be uncomfortable by that point, even with frequent bathroom breaks! Besides that, the baby seems to be eating my brain these days and I'm just not feeling at the top of my test-taking game lately.

    Also, I have taken the practice tests offered on CSET's website and I scored a 76% on subtest I and 67% on subtest II. Obviously I have some brushing up to do--especially on the linguistics side of things--but I'm just wondering if there's any way to guestimate how well I'd do on the actual CSET with those pretest scores? Of course I've yet to study and I do plan to use the areas of weakness on the pretests as guidelines for my areas of focus for study. I'd just be interested in hearing from people who've taken the sample pretests and passed the CSET regarding their experience with both.
     
  9. TeacherGroupie

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    First, welcome to A to Z, kitteh!

    Second, congratulations on the kitteh-in-potentia, and commiserations too: finding one's bladder in use as a trampoline, for one, is somewhat less than conducive to rational thought. Please apply for alternate testing arrangements, pronto: you want to be able to stand up and stretch, drink something other than water, and nosh a bit during testing without the proctor going apoplectic. You'll need a doctor's note.

    Third, I'm not in credentialing, but my sense is that the subject-matter waiver is all-or-nothing: either you have the coursework to get out of the whole thing, or you take the whole of CSET English, and there's no ground in between. UCLA's been cranking out teachers since West LA was still beanfields, so if the English department tells you the waiver's not on offer, I'd be inclined to believe it - but it wouldn't hurt to collect your transcript and visit with a credential analyst anyway. There's no reason I know of not to ask right there on campus.

    Fourth, if your BA coursework's that recent and that rich in upper-division English units, you should do just fine on Subtests I and III. But didn't you have to take something like Introduction to Language at some point? If you did, you should be in fine shape for the linguistics too.

    Good luck!
     
  10. kitteh

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    Thanks for the speedy response TG.

    My coursework was completed relatively recently but I'd say that most of the English courses were completed between 2004 and 2007 (I didn't take the "traditional" college route but went to Santa Monica College first and then transfered into UCLA since I was both a transplant to LA and working my way through school) so I'm definitely in need of a refresher of sorts. I've spent the past year or two focusing on Spanish-language literature and studying abroad down in Chile (where I met my husband, actually!) I think it might help that I am bilingual because I've gone through the process of second-language acquisition, but I'm certainly going to need to learn the technical jargon--I only scored a 67% on the subject II pretest. Unfortunately linguistics classes--even intro classes--don't seem to be a part of the English major these days. Luckily I did have some exposure to the concepts over the years through CUltural Anthropology classes and the like, but I really wish that it were built into the major, because my cultural anthro classes were completely elective.

    Aslo, I *just* registered for the CSET last night and while I hesitated over the "alternate testing arrangements" box I failed to check-mark it. Do you know if it is still possible for me to request this somehow? I didn't check the box because I just took the CBEST last Saturday and did fine comfort-wise, but that was an hour shorter than the CSET and I'm also not as largely pregnant as I'll be in 4 weeks.
     
  11. TeacherGroupie

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    The regular registration deadline hasn't passed yet - it's Dec. 11 - and the regular registration deadline is advertised as the deadline for applying for special accommodation. In your case, it would make sense to apply even if the deadline has passed. You don't need anything technologically complicated, after all, and the worst that happens is that the test people say "No."

    Go to the Web site to find out what's needed: http://www.cset.nesinc.com/CS15_altarrangements.asp
     
  12. joedags

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    Elmer mcan you please email me the guide for subtest II it is the only one I have yet to pass and I take on Saturday.
    jdags1680@hotmail.com
     
  13. TeacherGroupie

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    Welcome to A to Z, joedags. We don't post personal email addresses hereabouts so as not to encourage the spammers.

    Elmer didn't post a guide specifically for Subtest II, but you should find a useful list of technical terms (and definitions) for language and linguistics on the thread "Elmer's English resources" - this is one of the "sticky threads" at the top of the Single Subject Tests subforum, and you'll find it here: http://forums.atozteacherstuff.com/showthread.php?t=31052.
     
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    Thanks so very much...Appreciate the help
     
  15. TeacherGroupie

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    You're welcome. Once you've had a look at that lot, feel free to ask some questions hereabouts.
     
  16. needshelp1

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    Thanks for all the advice guys... but I'm still feeling super stressed and nervous about taking the CSET. I took all four subtests the first go and passed I and II but I've failed III and IV twice now... If I don't pass them this weekend I've be kicked out of my teaching credential program.... I've already given myself two panic attacks over it....
     
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    Can anyone give me any specifics for passing III and IV??? What the crap do these graders want!!!! I'm a good writer!!!! I am. I've been flat out offered jobs because of my writing.... I graduated with honors!!!! This test is giving me an inferiority complex...

    Someone please help me!!!!
     
  18. TeacherGroupie

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    needshelp1, what do you see on side 2 of your score reports? There's a charty of performance diagnostic on side 2 that can be helpful (though it sometimes takes a little interpreting).

    The focus in Subtest III is on analyzing literature (task 1) and dissecting and evaluating non-literary prose (task 2). The candidate who passes Subtest III knows and can deploy the technical terminology of literary analysis and of composition and rhetoric.

    The focus in the short-answer Subtest IV is on journalism/media, speech communication, theatre, and evaluating (rather than producing) creative writing.

    In neither subtest is it the case that the focus is on the candidate being a good writer.

    Roughly where in the state are you located?
     
  19. needshelp1

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    I'm in NorCal. I read the back of my score sheet, and I deciphered it. I got ++ for both sections and check marks for all the sections but my first essay which I got a k,s,d (this the second time score...).

    So what is the best way to prepare for III and IV??? Just review vocab and practice writing essays...?
     
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    Should I make all my answers in subtests IV third person- analytical?

    Do the graders mark down for misspellings...?

    Should I be writing the essays and short answers as an English major or as a teacher...?
     

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