Elmer's English resources, revived

Discussion in 'Single Subject Tests' started by TeacherGroupie, Jan 19, 2007.

  1. pknnguyen

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    Thank you for your advice, TeacherGroupie. Back to studying I go...
     
  2. TeacherGroupie

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    I rather think you're going to do just fine, pknnguyen.
     
  3. pknnguyen

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    I sure do hope so. Thanks for your encouragement...I'll let you know how things go! :)
     
  4. TeacherGroupie

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    Do that, please.
     
  5. Freemaker7

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    Oh Yeah Baby!

    I passed tests 1, 2, and 4 with Elmers notes and three books:
    Teach yourself linguistics, How to Read Literature Like a Professor, and NTC's Dictionary of Literary Terms. No problem, hedged on the side of "englishy" literary terms as a strategy.

    First try on the essays, however, yielded a shocking "1" grade. What?! I am a essayist and published author, this made no sense. There had to be something I was missing. I went back to the example on the net' and deconstructed it meticulously. I discovered that it was not written in a standard linear style like I was used to where Subject 1 = A and Subject 2 = B text goes ABAB compare and contrast, no.

    No the structure goes "ABBA" otherwise known as "ring structure" - look it up on wikapedia if you've never heard of it. It's the favored style of storytellers, the Bible, and Aristotle. I retook 3 with ABBA structure, paragraphs all about the same size, passed no problem.

    Oh, and the critical analysis of the persuasion portion contained structural components I had missed in the examples also. I put those in as well.

    Incidentally, I have a 7 year old degree in sculpture. Maybe these points are obvious for those literature folks out there, but not to us cross teaching people?

    Thanks Elmer those notes were really good!
     
  6. TeacherGroupie

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    I think you're much likelier to have come to grief on the first go for the missing structural components than you are for the ABAB vs. ABBA structure per se. It's broadly the case that, while CBEST scoring places more emphasis on how one says what one says, CSET scoring across the exams is much more interested in what one actually knows and whether one can get one's point across.
     
  7. interno

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    I plan on taking the CSET on the March date and have to take all four tests and pass in order to begin an internship with LAUSD in July. I have heard this test is hard to pass on the first try, yet I don't have time to retake it for this opportunity. I have started reading Elmer's notes and they seem very helpful. I also wonder though if the test will ask me to identify quotes/passages from certain texts or periods of literature (as they do in Brit Lit or Amer Lit classes). Or do they want you to have knowledge of the different periods and cite authors, works, characteristics, etc.? If so, do you have any suggestions of study materials for this aspect of the test? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
     
  8. TeacherGroupie

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    I don't believe you're expected to identify quotes cold. A decent familiarity with movements and overall styles would be a very good idea, however. If you've still got your Norton Anthologies, they could be very helpful: look for what the critical commentary identifies as a given writer's Big Issues, and scan the works sampled to see what else strikes you. If you haven't still got your Nortons, might not hurt to look for copies used.
     
  9. Quillaine

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    interno ~

    The very best study guide of them all was the sample tests on the CSET website ... that will let you know the type of questions you'll be seeing. I couldn't have passed all 4 subtests on the same day without it.
     
  10. TeacherGroupie

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    For some people, working straight from the sample tests (well, and the English-language arts and English language development content standards on which the samples and the subtests are based) is the best bet - and I think it makes for good learning to apply later in the classroom.

    But that's not the only way.
     
  11. Cat Lady

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    Thank you....what a great help!!!
     
  12. TeacherGroupie

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    Welcome to A to Z, Cat Lady.
     
  13. glee15

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    YOU'RE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!
     
  14. TeacherGroupie

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    Elmer did very good work, yes.

    And welcome to A to Z, glee15...
     
  15. crylotta

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    Hi...I can't get these to open for some reason...they download, but then won't open...would SOMEONE please send them to e-mail...I think I could get them to open from there! Thanks so much!
    boerman@msn.com
     
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    Hi...I'm new as well and am trying to get all I can to take the English CSET in two weeks...I can't seem to get Elmer's notes to open up...says there is a dialog box open and I need to close it first, but there isn't one open.

    Would someone please send these to my personal e-mail as attachments so I can open them and use them? Thanks so much

    boerman@msn.com
     
  17. TeacherGroupie

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    Try opening them from within Acrobat Reader.
     
  18. crylotta

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    Thanks Teacher...my hubby helped me and we got them to open in a roundabout way...couldn't access from Adobe Reader either. I've got them now! Thanks again!
     
  19. TeacherGroupie

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    They don't open from within Reader?? That's weird.
     
  20. NoRehearsalTime

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    Thank you for these guides, Elmer! I've been pouring over them for the last couple hours in preparation for the CSET next Saturday. I just found out 3 days ago that I have to have them finished before I can be accepted to my credential program (I thought I just had to finish them before I got the actual credential! STUPID!).

    Anyway, I have a BA in Theatre, so I'm hoping I will still have my analytical skills ready come next weekend. Thanks TG for participating in this forum, reading your replies have been a big help!

    edit: The CSET_Notes.doc attachment doesn't seem to work for me, it just takes me to a login screen. Is this happening for anyone else?
     

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