CSET - Spanish

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  1. Joe Sanchez

    Joe Sanchez New Member

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    My wife will be taking the Single Subject Spanish CSET in January. I have been researching Spanish and Latin American history and authors, and can send the information I have found to anyone interested. Has anyone on this board already taken a the Spanish CSET who might be able to remember an essay or short answer question? The test guides on the CSET website are helpful to an extent but definitely not enough. Most of the books the web site recommends are not even in print! The whole thing seems like a scam to me. If anyone would like to use this message board to share information, research, test questions etc. I would be more than happy to send you what I have.
     
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  3. TeacherGroupie

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    Sharing actual test questions is not a good idea: takers of the test sign documents that certify that they won't share actual test questions on penalty of having their own test scores nullified. And the sharing of test questions here can cause problems for the site owner.

    Using this forum to share approaches and sources, bounce ideas back and forth, and cheer each other on, however - now that's a great idea.

    Which resources are out of print? It's possible that someone here can suggest back-channel ways to find the resources, or perhaps alternative resources that aren't so hard to locate.
     
  4. Joe Sanchez

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    Spanish CSET study materials

    TeacherGroupie,

    I understand your point. Let me approach this in a different way then. I am assuming that it is OK to talk about actual content matter (as opposed to test questions) that we are researching since I have seen others do the same.
    We have begun researching the following Spanish and Latino authors:
    Becquer
    Borges,
    Cervantes
    Cortazar,
    Dario,
    Sor Juana de la Cruz
    Fuentes
    Garcilaso de la Vega,
    Garcia Marquez
    Garcia Lorca
    Marti
    Mistral,
    Paz,
    Quiroga
    Unamuno

    We have also begun researching the history of Spain focusing specifically on the following events:
    Spanish exploration and conquest
    Expulsion of Moors and Jews
    Decline of Spain
    Spanish Inquisition
    Spanish American War
    Spanish Civil War
    Spain Under Franco
    Post Franco Spain

    We have also started to study the following Spanish and Latino American literary movements:
    Generacion del 27
    Generacion del 98
    Realismo Magico
    Latin American Boom

    Do you or anyone else have any guidance on any authors, history, literary techniques or literary movements that we might have overlooked or that we can focus on in our studies. We are both native Speaker speakers so the language portion is not an issue.

    We have not begun studying for the linguistics portion of the test either. Does anyone have any guidance for that? Thank you ahead of time for any help or suggestions.

    I believe the title of the book that is out of print is Historica de la Literatura latino americana
     
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    Sounds like a very promising start, Joe.

    As for the book that's out of print, let me suggest searching Google or Answers.com or Wikipedia using that title - "historia de la literatura latinoamericana" as a search string. You might turn up some other useful books - and you almost certainly will turn up some good Web sites.

    Here's one you might find useful: The Spanish Language Page, http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~cjp16/spanlang/spanlang.htm.

    As for being native speakers, excellent! You may both have a problem that plagues most native speakers of English when they are taking exams on English grammar, and that is that it's perfectly possible to know a language deeply and use it well without necessarily having a full grip on the technical terminology and analytical tools. That is, your wife should brush up on Spanish grammar - but her goal is to learn the lingo. A helpful book in this regard is Farrell & Farrell's Lado a lado, which is a parallel grammar of Spanish and English in Spanish.

    As to the linguistics, it should be the case that pretty much any introductory textbook will tell your wife more than she wanted to know. If you're near a university with a linguistics department, visit the bookstore and browse among the texts for the entry-level linguistics classes. Look for something friendly and approachable.

    Where in the state are you and your wife located?
     
  6. Joe Sanchez

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    Teacher Groupie,

    My wife has made the decision to try the Multiple Subject test instead because her heart is with the little ones. She has come close to passing all three tests with scores like 217, 214 and 215 but can't quite get over the hump. We are going to try subtest I and III again. Any suggestions on study guides? We are in the San Diego area.
     
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    SDSU College of Education's Office of Student Services runs a series of classes that will begin Jan. 2: see http://edweb.sdsu.edu/ceac/home.htm, or phone 619.594-6320.

    What are you seeing on side 2 of her score report?
     
  8. naday

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    Hey Joe,
    I'm also taking the cset Spanish in January. If you are a native speaker of Spanish don't worry about the grammar usage of the language. One of my professor told me that the cset was desinged to test the abilities of second language learners of spanish so you should be fine! The literature questions are not that difficult either. I recommend that you study linguistics.
     
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    I am also taking the Spanish CSET in January. I got around six books from the library but I'm beginning to feel they might be a huge waste of time as they mostly deal with the history of Spain. Can anyone reccommend a good one for the linguistics portion?? Nayday, have you taken the test before?? Or just heard about what might be the sticky parts?? If not all of it.
     
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    Joe, Did your wife just change her mind because of feeling overwhelmed by the lack of study materials for the Spanish CSET and then switch to MSCSET? Just curious. I'd like to help and share ideas about the Spanish CSET if you're still intrested.
     
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    I bought Teach Yourself Linguistics. It teaches the basic concepts and it's very helpful if you have no previous knowledge of linguistics.
    By the way haven't taken it yet but I practice with the online sample tests and I really don't think the test is that difficult.
     
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    I just found a comprehensive study guide on Amazon. It looks like it was published around Sept. 19 2006. Perhaps a response to all the complaints about the lack of a comprehensive study guide for this exam. No reviews have been written so I'm wondering if anyone has used it, and if so, do they think it has any bang for the buck. Thanks.
     
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    Whatever you buy, check it against the Subject Matter Requirements/Content Specifications for CSET Spanish to make sure that the resource really does cover what you need covered. There are purported test guides out there that are slight reworkings of materials for other tests - as useful as AP materials can be, for example, the AP language exams don't generally go into linguistics in useful ways.
     
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    Here is a list of useful books. I took Spanish and Latin american literature in High School and then took some other courses as an undergrad.
    Ortografia de la lengua Espanola (Real Academia de la Lengua Espanola)
    Coleccion de lecturas medievales
    Introduccion al estudio de la lengua espanola (ediciones partenon)
    Lado a Lado gramatica Inglesa y espanola
    Cronicas de una muerte anunciada
    Don Quijote de la Mancha
    El Poema del Mio Cid
    Fuente Ovejuna (Lope de Vega)
    I will keep looking for more.
     
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    Does anyone know anything about the California Teaching Solutions study guides? They offer a Spanish CSET study guide, but it seems like one of those "too good to be true" schemes. I can't post the link here, but if anyone can offer any "ratings" on the software, that would be great.

    Thanks!

    -Laura
     
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    I just bought the XAM CSET 145,146,147..It seems pretty thin but that's not neccesarily a bad thing. It does have some practice tests as well. Not sure if it's a scam job but it does cover linguistics and culture pretty well. I mean jeeeezzz how much does one need to learn to pass a stupid scam test anyway???
     
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    Where did you buy the CSET 145,146,147?

    Hello! I am a new member, I also have to take the Cset spanish subject. Spanish is my first language, I took this test and is a very stupid test. to beging with, the questions are in English and you could anwer the questions in english. To pass this test you need to take a workshop where they teach you how to pass the test, passing this test does not mean you master spanish language. I have seen some spanish language teachers that they lack the knowledge of the language and they work as teacher. One of the most rediculous thing is that you need to score 220 points in each three sections of the test, I got 219 in my first test. I am schedule to take the test on january 20th, I would appreciate if you tell me where to buy the 145,146,147 Cset test. if you guys need help in the spanish language, let me know, I am willing to help you.

    azul




     
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    Azul,

    Merry Christmas. I hope Santa will deliver us some passing scores next year. Yeah I agree, as usual, these lame tests hit you hard on just about everything with the exception of the actual knowledge needed to teach the subject. It like going on Jeapordy but the difference is, they win the money...time and time again. If they really gave a crap about you actually passing...they would provide some kind of reduced fee the next time around or no fee at all. Dream on. Anyway, I found the book on Amazon.com. Just google it and you should find places that carry it. I couldn't find it at any bookstore so I went the on-line route.
    I understand your frustration but it works both ways, because someone that is not a native Spanish speaker (an advantage that you have on at least the grammar portion) will get so bogged down with useless linguistic terms that you forget you have to actually read Spanish too!
     
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    azul, your score of 219 suggests that it won't take much more work for you to pass that subtest. If you look at side 2 of your official score report, you'll see a chart of performance indicators that can help you see where to focus your efforts to get that one more point. I'm going to guess that you came up a bit short in constructed response.

    Let me also gently suggest to both you and TringtoTch an adjustment in perspective: you both seem to be highly aware of ways in which the subtests seem not to be relevant to the teaching of Spanish, but it may serve you better to try to imagine how the questions are or could be relevant. For one thing, most human beings tend not to perform as well on tasks they resent as on tasks they enjoy. That is, the question behind each of the test questions is "What is the point of this?"; the test taker who believes that there must be a point will find it easier to look for one than will the test taker who assumes that there is no point.
     
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    MS cliff Notes


    Both Barron's and cliff Notes have great guides for MS CSET. You can find them at Borders. I think your wife should take the CSET Spanish. This state is in dire need of great Spanish teachers. Maybe she could find a job teaching Spanish to the little ones. Terry G.
     
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    Teaching Solution Guide

    I took the CA teaching solution guide for English but I used other sources with it. I think it is way too expensive. Terry G.
     

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