CSET Physical Education Subtest III - HELP!!!

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  1. TeacherGroupie

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    A gentle reminder: please don't post actual specific test questions. Test companies get tetchy about that, and they can and do go after test takers.
     
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    I am taking the PE subset III test after failing twice. For the multiple choice does any have a prep system that they feel covers the material? please advise...
     
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    I really need help with subtest 2. I have also failed it 4x..
     
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    that's where i'm also having trouble in. The multiple choice is brutal and i'm not sure what else to do in studying for that. I have failed it 4 times.
     
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    HI, I seem to be lacking in the writing of the PE Subset 3 test. Can anyone share with me the format they used that worked well? I did not recommend any modifications or accommodations in my last written part. Is that the problem? I received a (*) and advice on the structure and what to include?

    kemerson026@gmail.com
     
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    Hello,

    I'm reading through this thread and I'm getting nervous for my test. It will be the first time I am taking it. I am taking just SUB TEST 2 first. Can anyone give me some pointers for subtest 2? specifically the essay portion.
    Thank you.
     
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    Do you have any pointers for the second subtest? I see you said you passed that one right away.

    I would appreciate it. Thank you!
     
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    I have a very similar story. I have been a personal trainer and coach for 10 years very up to date on all the new science etc. bachelors in kinesiology. I passed my subtest 1&2 on my second try. And I recently just received a 208 for the 3rd time on my subtest 3. I need help as well. The books I have to study almost seem unrelevant to specifically subtest 3
     
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    I am in the exact same situation. Subtest 3 I can not pass.
     
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    With the exception of CSET Writing (which isn't your problem) and possibly CSET English Subtest III, CSET written responses are not essays. Essays have introductions and conclusions and pretty prose. CSET PE constructed responses should show the reader who knows PE that the writer also knows PE - they should sport a good selection of technical terms of PE that are appropriate to the question and relatively few technical terms that are off topic. Think about a sport - or for that matter any other activity of human life - that you know well, and think about how you can tell that someone else discussing it really doesn't have a clue: the technical terms will be misused, and often there will be the sort of syntactic floundering that results when someone is attempting, frankly, to BS badly - to fake an answer but without having a theoretical foundation to base it on. (Having a solid theoretical foundation can still mean that one has to BS, but the quality of the BS should be much higher.)

    A successful CSET PE response should be formatted like a formal essay only if that's the way the test taker's mind works when left to its own devices. A workable format is to lead with one's brief answer to the overall question posed, then support that answer point by point, with reference to principles of the field and/or the video as appropriate. Bullet-listing one's points is a fine idea. Using the technical terminology of kinesiology and the other subdisciplines of PE (especially the subdisciplines mentioned in the question!) is vital.

    As for preparation, let me recommend something like this: Find a video of a physical activity that you don't think of as PE - say, chopping logs, or trying to control an umbrella on a windy day. Using the model question in the online CSET PE III study guide, substitute that activity in for whatever the question specifies. Answer the question off the top of your head, in something like the timeframe you expect on the test. Then do research - use your notes/flashcards and look up terms on the internet - to see what you said wrong or what else you should have mentioned. Rewrite your response. A day later, see if you can rewrite it again from memory. Then "rinse and repeat", as they say, with another activity. Want to get off-color with your choice of activity? Be my guest. But the point is to be applying the terminology you're expected to know to describe novel situations, because that's what you're going to need to do on the test - and in the field.
     
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    I have passed the CSET PE subtest 1 and 2 and need help with subtest 3's constructed response. My latest score was 202, professional foundations +++ and integrated concepts +++, but constructed response was +, with s,d.
    I watched the video
    I pointed out some things each student did right and wrong (strengths and weaknesses)
    I used A LOT of biomechanical terminology, such as balance, force, range of motion, etc
    I gave several improvement techniques for each student

    What am I missing?
     
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    The "s" designator is for support: given this type of prompt, it's possible that you weren't citing enough specifics from the video to support either your diagnosis or your improvements or both, or that you weren't citing enough principles from the domains of PE to justify your diagnosis or your improvements or both, or, um, both. The "d" designator indicates that your response lacked breadth and depth: it was on the right track but didn't go far enough.

    The Subtest III domain to which the constructed response belongs is explicitly labeled "Integration of Concepts" - that is, one is supposed to draw on all of the disciplines of PE, including ones that are covered in other subtests. You've mentioned the biomechanical terminology you used, but you might want to rethink the question from the point of view of those other domains: could you have brought in terminology and principles that are more associated with them? (For instance, correct terminology for the activity under review ties into the Subtest II domain "Movement Concepts and Forms".) If you're explicitly naming biomechanics, it's also possible that you're not taking advantage of some useful distinctions (kinetics vs. kinematics, for instance), either by ignoring them or by lumping together as biomechanics some phenomena that can usefully be considered separately.
     
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    I have taken PE subtest 3 several times, all with similar scores in the low 200's. The highest being 214. The more I focused on the written response, the lower my score was. As was the case this April. I passed subtest 2 recently with a score on the written response of ++++ without spending a lot of time worrying about it.

    For the MC's, I recommend making a long list of definitions and concepts you are unfamiliar with and memorize them. The California Framework is a good resource to review several times. It is also free, on the internet. Don't waste your money on Amazon's products, as I made the same mistake, wasting time, and money.

    The sample written response we are given for subtest 3 is not a detailed biomechanical analysis. It does not go into great detail about the movement of specific body parts or the physics involved. It is more of a basic movement description of children doing an activity. Also, they do not incorporate any of the psychological, motivational or sociological aspects in the sample response, which would be part of an integration of all concepts. Am I wrong?

    Given the number of times I have sat for the exam, I've got a pretty good idea of what to expect on the constructed response. I am putting together outlines of similar activities from the perspective of a basic movement analysis, along with strategies for improvement. Has anyone tried this technique with success? Has anyone attempted to use the sample response as a backdrop and filled in the blanks for the specific activity? Anyone willing to offer advice? Desperate for help.
     
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    That sounds like a good approach, 99 percent.

    If you're writing as you would for parents or students, try writing instead for fellow professionals - perhaps jotting down quick notes to show a kindly PE-teacher mentor that you're ready to play/teach in the big leagues.
     
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    Hello,
    What can you help out with subtest 3?
     

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