CSET Math Test This Past Saturday

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  1. TeacherGroupie

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    For CSET Math, the laurels unquestionably go to innovationguy. What I teach is more along the lines of arithmetic, and for the people I usually teach, I'd either need to give 'em the dimensions of the triangular faces or do something cute with Pythagorean triples and the cross section (and ignore the pentagonal base)... but, oh my, yes, could that freak some people out...
     
  2. irx7fani

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    Can someone tell me how the Subtest III calculus section is scored? How many do you need to answer correctly to pass? I think i answered 2 free response correctly, missed the other two probably; but I think i did okay on the multiple choice; just wondering if I passed.

    P.S.
    How do u prove Sin^2 + Cos^2 = 1?
     
  3. innovationguy

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    Method 1: If (x, y) is a point on the unit circle in the first quadrant, then x and y are the lengths of the legs of a right triangle whose hypotenuse has length 1, then by the Pythagorean theorem, x and y satisfy the equation

    x2 + y2 = 1.

    The trigonometric functions cosine and sine may be defined on the unit circle as follows. If (x, y) is a point of the unit circle, and if the ray from the origin (0, 0) to (x, y) makes an angle t from the positive x-axis, (where counterclockwise turning is positive), then

    cos(t) = x
    sin(t) = y

    The equation x2 + y2 = 1 gives the relation

    cos^2(t) + sin^2(t) = 1

    In the general case of a circle with radius, r, then any point, P(x, y), on the circle satisfies:

    x^2 + y^2 = r^2...which is the general equation of the circle, derived from Pythagoras' Theorem!

    Using the fact that cos(t) = x/r and sin(t) = y/r

    we get cos^2(t) + sin^2(t)

    = x^2/r^2 + y^2/r^2

    = r^2/r^2

    = 1.

    Method 2: also employs the definitions of sin and cos in conjunction with the Pythagoras' Theorem but does not refer to a coordinate system.

    For any Right Triangle right-angled at C, sin A = a/c and cos A = b/c so that

    sin^2 A + cos^2 A

    = a^2/c^2 + b^2/c^2

    = (a^2 + b^2)/c^2

    = c^2/c^2...since a^2 + b^2 = c^2

    = 1

    Jay.
    http://innovationguy.easyjournal.com
     
  4. Malcolm

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    Subtest 3 is scored 70% MC, 30% CR. You need about 65% of the available points to get the passing scaled score of 220. So, if you aced the MC section, you could theoretically get by with no points from the CR section.

    Don't you just love Jay's command of mathematics?
     
  5. irx7fani

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    thanks guys, I've been lurking in the forum and you guys are always there to help! Keep up the great support for us newbies!
     
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    Today, I got my unofficial score report on cset math that I passed all three tests, as I expected. Now, I am contacting CCTC to see whether they can add a single subject teaching credential in mathematics to my single subject teaching credential in physics (specialized), which is still in pending.

    By the way, my case to get a teaching credential is very different from most of you. I taught in an accredited private high school in California for three years (2005~2008). Therefore, I can use the minimum three years of full time teaching in a private school to substitute for student teaching. I didn't expect that none of the public school districts I am interested in would offer me a contract before I have a credential at hand, even though they showed great interest on me since I taught AP Calculus BC and AP Physics B last year.

    Thanks for everyone who answered my questions in this forum.
     
  7. TeacherGroupie

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    Well done, sahsjing!
     
  8. carin_truong

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    CSET Math HELP!

    I am looking to take Subset 1 and 2 for Foundational Math and am a little scared. I have taken all of these courses in College receiving an A in all of them. Any advice on what to study? Where did you earn your credential? I have looked at the CTC website as well regarding private schools and requirements. I would appreciate any info you can offer. You can also contact me at carin_truong@yahoo.com. Thanks!

     
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    If you got A for all those courses, you definitely can pass CSET math without much preparation.

    I didn't prepare for the CSET math test at all, but I answered over 8,000 math questions in answers.yahoo.com during the last couple of years. Since I taught SAT II Math Level 2 classes last year, it seems to me the level of CSET math is about the same as that of SAT II Math Level 2, except calculus part.

    My application for a teaching credential in physics and mathematics is still in pending. I got an email from CCTC telling me that I need to submit more materials.
     
  10. Malcolm

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    Carin,

    If you carefully read the subtest descriptions, and the referenced California content standards, you will know exactly what may show up on the test. If it isn't in, of implied by, one of these two documents, it won't be on the test. There is nothing on the test beyond high school math except a little number theory and a little group theory. The single best prep resource is here.

    Sahsjing,

    The reason you did not get any interest from potential employers despite your math experience may be due to the requirements of NCLB. NCLB requires teachers of core subjects, including mathematics, to be "highly qualified." In California, a teacher is "highly qualified" if he has a bachelor's degree or better, has a teaching credential (30 day emergency permit does not count), and has demonstrated subject matter competence. The latter may be done by completing a CTC approved subject matter program or by passing CSET.
     
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    Hi, I am a new member here, looking for some one who has Innovation guy's CSET Math Subtets I,II Q banks and their solutions and have already passed the CSET Math test, possibly willing to sell it to me at a reasonable price. I cannot afford $150 to spend on the notes itself. Pls reply here and we will take it from there..Thanks alot.
     
  12. sahsjing

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    Sorry for late response. I thought I had replied when I read your response the first time.

    A couple of months ago, I finally got my California teaching credential in Math and Physics with CLAD by passing CSET.
     
  13. mathslover

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    I just learned that I passed all three subtests that I took on march 13th! Without wishing to boast, I did expect to pass but it feels wonderful to know for sure. I found subtests 1 and 2 easier than on the sample version but part 3 was harder than I expected. I allotted 90 seconds for the mc qns and 15 minutes for the cr qns. I answered 3 cr qns on each part. Good luck to you all.
     
  14. wanttoteachmath

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    Congrats Mathslover

    Congratulations on passing all three. I bet you are so thrilled and relieved.

    I wasn't daring enough to try all three subtests at once and I have some time before starting student teaching in the late fall, but was thrilled to learn today that I passed Subtest I.

    I agree that it was easier than expected and I was pretty sure I passed, but it definitely feels good to get confirmation. I hope I find subtest II easier than expected as well as I take that in May.

    Go celebrate tonight!!!
     
  15. TeacherGroupie

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    Grand performance, mathslover!
     
  16. Cami

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    Grand performance, mathslover, indeed!
    I took only the first test, and I am happy I passed!
    About Geometry, please tell me, do they give us the calculators or we must have our own?
    Reading the instructions I understood that we must have our own, but it seems that they provide calculators. I am wondering what type, is anyone who knows?
    Please help me with this question.
    Thank you
     
  17. TeacherGroupie

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    Hi, Cami.

    They provide calculators for CSET Multiple Subjects and for CSET Science, but for CSET Math you provide your own. (I suspect too many TI-84s would walk out of the room otherwise.) There's a list of acceptable models on the CSET Web site, and if memory serves it's lurking on the Test Selection page: scroll waaaaaay down. You might ask among your friends-and-relations to see whether you can borrow one, or you might look for one used.
     
  18. Cami

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    Thank you, TeacherGroupie, I understand now. I thought they give calculators for CSET MAth as well. I have a Casio (which is accepted) and I was afraid to be asked to use a TI. To be honest, I didn't use calculators very often during my school years...probably that's why I'm so afraid...but talking about preferences.. I rather make a computer program for a calculation instead :) ..
    Thank you again for enlightening me in this matter.
    Cami
     
  19. TeacherGroupie

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    You're welcome, and good hunting to you.
     
  20. mathslover

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    They do not provide you with calculators, you need to get your own. They have a list of approved calculators on the cset website. I used a TI-83 graphing calculator. Even a plain scientific calculator should do. Just make sure it's on the approved list.
     

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