CSET Math Subtest I, II, III (single subject)

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  1. mathteachertobe

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    Thanks for the replies. I majored in Biology and am only supplemental in Bio, but my school was back east. Somehow I thought a UC's math major curricula would suffice for CTC purposes. (Of the 5 teachers with full math credentials at my site, 3 went the CSET route and 2 went SMC through the CSU system.)
     
  2. futuremathsprof

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    I did not know that! This means not all math majors are created equal. At UC Davis, I had to take the following:

    1 year of calculus (differential calculus, integral calculus, multivariable calculus, vector calculus)
    advanced calculus
    theory-based linear algebra (requires knowledge of matlab)
    real analysis I and II
    numerical analysis I and II
    math and computers
    differential equations
    partial differential equations
    1 year of physical chemistry
    complex analysis
    modern algebra
    abstract math
    C programming
    C++ programming
    1 year of physics (classical mechanics, thermodynamics, electricity and magnetism, and modern physics)
    statistics
    probability theory
    mathematical biology

    I also took a year of biochemistry, a year of inorganic chemistry, a year of organic chemistry, and a year of biology, but these were not required. I just took these classes because I like science as much as I like math.

    I don't understand how you can be considered a "math" major if you don't take similar coursework like I and my friends did...

    Edit: I am adding history of math to coursework taken. I forgot to add that, lol.
     
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  3. mathteachertobe

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    There are 6 domains listed in the CTC information on subject matter competence for math. They are algebra, geometry, number theory, calculus, history of mathematics, and statistics and probability. Your coursework doesn't seem to include three of the six: number theory, geometry or history of math.
     
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    Oh, I did not realize I forgot some. I did take history of math (I learned not only the history but all the old math methods) as an elective, but it is was optional. Number theory is a class that is offered, but I decided not to take it. Further, Analytic Geometry was a course I could have taken but it conflicted with my other coursework, and it was not required. Plus, I used geometry quite a bit in my physics classes. Hopefully, that makes sense. In fact, I scored the highest in Subtest II because of my background in geometry and probability and statistics. :)

    For my teaching credential program I tested out of all of the prerequisites because of my math degree. I sent them a detailed description of all coursework taken and they said it more than sufficed and that I went above and beyond, especially since I finished the CBEST and SS Math CSETs before I applied.

    Edit: I took and passed the Praxis 5161 when I was in my teaching credential program.
     
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  5. innovationguy

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    Fair enough. I understand your point. The thing is fellows that are enrolled in Mathematics Education programs -- scores of schools offer such a Bachelor's; Idk if the Cal States / UCs do though at the Undergrad level -- take a fraction of those classes you listed...and yet the program falls under the aegis of the Math department [not Education] and theyre regarded as "Math majors", haha.

    Jay.
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  6. Striver

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    I am aiming for the foundational math credential and am struggling with the CSET I and 2.

    I am currently a high school English teacher, but I want to teach math. I love the humanities, but the lesson planning and grading is just so overwhelmingly burdensome. Teaching math seems so much more straightforward.

    I think that Subtest 2 is definitely easier than Subtest 1. For 1, I had to consult my former HS math teacher for tutoring help. He was amazed at Subtest 1's difficulty. I have taken Subtest 1 twice and failed with scores of 206 and 203. Those scores seem close enough to indicate that I have promise, but far enough from 220 to suggest that I need to kick it up a notch. I have Jay's problem sets.

    Subtest 2 seems much easier, as in, all of the concepts are comprehensible, which is not true for Subtest1, at least when I first approached them. I am taking Subtest2 in a few days and I feel cautiously optimistic.

    Single Subject Math seems to be the hardest CSET of all, excluding foreign languages which I cannot judge. I think this is because if a math teacher is stumped, that is a huge problem. If a history teacher does not know some fun fact, that isn't that big of a deal. That said, I think that if you pass the English or History CSETs, you are still expected to continually study throughout your career. Whereas, with math, if you can pass the CSET and know the material, you are pretty much set knowledge-wise for the rest of your career.

    I think that becoming a math teacher is like dating as a man, and becoming an English teacher is like dating as a woman. It is incredibly hard to pass the math test, but once you do, your life gets easier. It is incredibly easy to pass the English test, but once you do, your life actually gets a lot harder. It is hard to get a girlfriend, but once you do, your life gets easier. You get the picture.
     
  7. innovationguy

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    "I think that becoming a math teacher is like dating as a man, and becoming an English teacher is like dating as a woman. It is incredibly hard to pass the math test, but once you do, your life gets easier. It is incredibly easy to pass the English test, but once you do, your life actually gets a lot harder. It is hard to get a girlfriend, but once you do, your life gets easier. You get the picture."

    Most droll! Theres something int it, I imagine. Try the free resources at www.csetmathguru.weebly.com. Feel free to post what topics trouble you specifically, and Id be happy to offer specific assistance!
    Jay.
     

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