CSET Math Subtest I, II, III (single subject)

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  1. quantummechanix

    quantummechanix Rookie

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    I will be taking the Math subtests I, II, & III on July 19 and would like to thank Jay for the question banks. I have finished question bank for subtest I and will finish subtest II today.

    I recently downloaded a very good book on the history of mathematics for free through a torrent. I have a collection of over 50 gigs of books available if anyone is in need of math, physics, chemistry. Please do let me know and I will be happy to email or upload them to you.

    If anyone is in woodland hills or los angeles area in california please do let me know if you would like to start a study group. Thanks!!

    Manish
     
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  3. TeacherGroupie

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    Sounds good, quantummechanix!
     
  4. teach2008

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    Hello Manish,

    I am looking to take the CSET Mathematics subtests and I will appreciate much if you can make your study materials and question banks available. I just attended an info session held by teachcaliforniacharter.org and would like to start my teaching career in math. However, as I read through some online materials, there was one individual who mentioned that to start teaching, one only has to pass the Subtest I. I wonder if you or anyone know a definite answer to my concern.

    Thank you.
    Norman
     
  5. innovationguy

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    BRAVO on your career choice: the state is in desperate need for competent Math teachers, especially at the High School level!

    To clarify, both Subtests I [Algebra / Number Theory] and II [Geometry / Statistics] need to be "overcome" [?!] to secure a Foundation Credential that most school districts accept. A few require Subtest III [Calculus / History of Math], too.

    Click here for CSET Single Subject Math information - especially, here - and browse through the articles.

    I wish you well!

    Jay.
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  6. Malcolm

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    Bad news, you have to take the first two subtests...

    Good news, the second one is much easier than the first one...

    A Foundational Level credential (first two subtests) will allow you to teach everything at middle school level and up through Algebra 2 in high school. Middle schools, in general, are perfectly happy if you have this credential. In my experience, high schools would like you to have the full credential (all three subtests). I've run into districts that offer signing bonuses if you have it. But they will usually settle for the Foundational Level credential what with the general shortage of math teachers in the state. After all, it is not likely that they will want you to teach calculus your first year unless you are the only math teacher in the school (usually someone with high seniority teaches this).

    By all means, check out Jay's site. It is truly The Only Site...
     
  7. teach2008

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    Thanks for all the great answers. Years back after I passed my CBEST I talked to an elementary school teacher whom I had known for years about becoming a math/science teacher in high school. She gave me the impression that I need to first get a two-year study for a teaching credential PLUS passing the multiple-subject CSET and CSET mathematics. As I already have my M.S. in engineering I thought that was too much a hustle to go through another 2-year of study. Since then I gave up the thought of being a teacher and instead volunteered with non-profits to teach a couple classes in disadvantaged areas. It was not until I bumped into teachcaliforniacharter my desire was rekindled. Next up, I need to find out how to get a teaching credential, what kind of teaching credentials are available, or should I first enroll in a school that offers teaching credentials...

    Thanks for all the great help in answering my questions.
     
  8. TeacherGroupie

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    For high school math, you don't need CSET-Multiple Subjects; that's for elementary school (though there's something to be said for having high school teachers with breadth... but never mind).

    Credential programs in California are all post-BA; a part-time program may take two years, but most full-time programs are shorter than that.

    Math remains a high-need area; you should be eligible for APLE loan assumption, which pays between $11,000 and $19,000 of eligible student loans, and/or you could consider an internship program, if your local district offers one and has space in the budget for you. There's quite likely to be other money out there as well. And some CSUs have special programs for aspiring math teachers to help get them through the tests and other hurdles.
     
  9. innovationguy

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    Quick answer: IF you want to teach Math in a Middle / High School, you need a Single Subject math credential...for which it is required that you

    a) demonstrate subject matter competency via the CSET SS Math Subtests I and II (at minimum, yielding a Foundation Credential)

    b) enroll into a Credential Program [durations vary depending on the school: from part Time ~ 12-15 months to Full Time ~ 18-24 months]

    The "popular" schools are the Cal States and National University / University of Phoenix [which I believe have online classes]. Others are local private ones like Cal Baptist University, and of course, the UCs.

    The "better" schools mandate that candidates satisfy requirement a) before b).

    A few school districts - fewer now, what with teachers needing to be NCLB compliant - still offer Internship Credentials wherein one, having satisfied a) works on b) concurrently to teaching full-time with a regular work-load.

    Jay.
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    PS. Being an engineer, pursuing either a Math or a Science [especially, Physics and / or Chemistry] credential shan't be terribly challenging!
     
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    Thank you, Jay and TeacherGroupie. I am checking out Jay's innovationguy.easyjournal.com site and it is GREAT. BTW, teaching Physics is one of my options down the road. :)
     
  11. quantummechanix

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    Hi Jay, this is Manish. I sent my driver down to pick up the question banks from you. Thank you very much for everything you have provided for the CSET I, II, & III subtests. I have finished all the questions in your bank. I have solved every problem and they looked relatively simple considering I have a mathematics and physics background. For those with only a few years of mathematics experience I do suggest you purchase Jay's question banks. Once again good luck to everyone and do email or message me if you would like to meet here in southern california to study or if you need any good books in pdf format.

    I am currently writing a student database program in VB which might be of use to many of you for any grade level. Once I finish please do let me know how I may upload the program to your server here on teacherforums. Thank you.

    Manish
     
  12. innovationguy

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    Thanks for the awfully kind and gracious words! I am certain that you shall triumph on all 3 Subtests in your very inaugural attempt.

    Your "handle" quantummechanix reminds me of the inimitable French comic books of Asterix and Obelix I grew up reading with their very clever historical allusions, ridiculous puns and utterly un-P.C. stereotypes that they reinforced!

    Recurring characters in the comics were:
    • Getafix [the druid / healer];
    • Dogmatix [their canine friend];
    • Chief Vitalstatistix [the chieftain of the Gauls]
    • Doublehelix [the chief's brother];
    • Justforkix [the chief's nephew];
    • Impedimenta [the chief's wife];
    • Homeopathix [her brother];
    • Cacofonix [the village bard];
    • Fulliautomatix [the blacksmith];
    • Semiautomatix [his father];
    • Unhygienix [the fishmonger];
    • Bacteria [his wife];
    • Geriatrix [the oldest inhabitant of the village];
    • Monosyllabix and Polysyllabix [villagers];
    • Postaldistrix [the postman];
    • Soporifix [father of Panacea];
    • Tragicomix [husband of Panacea];
    • Anticlimax [Asterix's first cousin, once removed];

    • Operatix,
    • Acoustix,
    • Harmonix,
    • Polyfonix,
    • Polytechnix,
    • Pacifix,
    • Linguistix,
    • Atlantix,
    • Baltix,
    • Adriatix,
    • Analgesix,
    • Bucolix,
    • Photogenix,
    • Tenansix, and
    • Picanmix [Minor characters];

    Clearly, the names "matched" - in a sense - the temperament / occupation of the individuals.

    Oh, those were good times! My twin owns most - if not all - of these comic gems, but I myself haven't read them in over 10 years...SNIFF.

    Jay.
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  13. Cayogirl80

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    History of mathematics

    i am also taking 1, 2 , 3 july 19, can you please send me the history of mathematics download link or email it to me.
    thanks
     
  14. TeacherGroupie

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    quantummechanix, if you can send private messages yet, please send me one with the link and I'll post it.
     
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    Being of Scots ancestry, the St. Andrews site is my favorite, of course...

    The book by Boyer recommended in the General Test Information is good IMHO.

    FWIW math history on CSET is going to be a crap shoot any way you look at it. The history is so immense and the number of questions about it on CSET so few, may six MC and one CR, the odds of knowing enought to be sure of acing this part are minimal. But it would be a good idea to be able to reproduce famous proofs from antiquity (Greek and even Babylonian) because they have a history of showing up on the CR question.

    Otherwise, like Jay suggested, read through the history materials once or twice and relax. Be aware that it is entirely possible to pass subtest 3 with the help of absolutely no points from the history questions. The passing raw score is well under 60% of the available points on this subtest.
     
  17. innovationguy

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    Couldn't express it better.

    Jay.
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  18. eeljeek

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    Took the test today

    I took the cset subset math III, i think i answered 20 questions correct for sure and guessed on the rest, hopefully i answered atleast two of those, and I answered three of four constructive response for really well...the fourth i tried my best but probably didn't get it right, I was wondering if that is going to be enough for me to pass this section of the test, with lets say 20 multiple choice and 3 questions answered thoroughly with a guess on the fourth response...
     
  19. innovationguy

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    Yes, my man, you pulled it off! Celebrate, albeit in moderation, yes?!

    Jay.
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  20. TeacherGroupie

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    Well, I think I'd wait to celebrate till scores are issued, just in case...
     
  21. Malcolm

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    If you answered 20 of the 26 MC questions correctly and did even reasonably well on the CR questions, you passed CSET Math Subtest 3.

    Was the CR question you had trouble with on math history?

    I would celebrate regardless. It is always good to have a reason to celebrate, even if it is not true.
     

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