cset english subtest IV?????

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  1. kalsjh

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    hi
    I passed the first 3 subtests. Unfortunately it is the IV and supposedly easy subtest that is proving to be a problem for me. Any advice on books I can read or any course I can join to help me pass it? Any advice is going to be appreciated. I need to clear the CSET English test this time (21st Jan).
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    "Easy" is relative, kalsjh, and you're by no means the first poster on A to Z to run afoul of Subtest IV. How did you prepare before?
     
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    lucky guess

    I have graduated with English as my major but that was a few years back. For the test prep I tried reading books which contained background information on English Literature and of course the Cliffs and Bobrow's AP test prep books. As far as passing the first three sections, I have no idea how I did that. Lucky guess I guess :) and not just one but most of them otherwise I wouldn't have passed any. The IV subtest is a problem because I have no knowledge about drama or journalism. Criticism is fine but the questions are too specific and I am absolutely lost. The last time I took the test there was one question about I believe folk tale narration that I did not understand leave aside writing an opinion about it.

    kalsjh
     
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    AP books work well for Subtests I and III, and possibly II, but aren't helpful with IV. One really good approach is to download the Subject Matter Requirements document from the CSET Web site, find the parts that deal with the subtest one is taking (in this case, of course, Subtest IV), and then look up any terms in it that are unfamiliar. The Answers.com Web site (http://www.answers.com) is a particularly good choice for this. One could also check the bookstore or library for children's introductions to each of the domains (speech, journalism, and drama). Since you did all right on Subtests I, II, and III, I'd guess you have the editorial tools to do reasonably well with the Creative Writing question, which often gives a student-written work and asks how that work could be improved.
     
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    My problem is just the opposite 3 is very hard and so is two. I passed the 4th on my second try. When taking the test. Fill out every line. Do not leave any room other than indentations. Make your point in the first sentence. Such as in drama, " The first game the students should play to help them with their play is..." Have plenty of examples of to back up your point. I created six and used four. Once you’re done then make a quick conclusion that is about a sentence. Have a title. CSET test 4 or drama test is not good. Think of something creative. I took a prep course that really helped if you want to know when and where please pm me. They can be expensive (90 bucks for my last two sessions.) Look at the CSET website. The questions don’t really change on the tests. I did a practice on my own and had answers ready to go. Do you have a study buddy, someone to look at your answers? A friend or family member would be great. There's also a great tutor by the name of Frances Sussna. There's a post with her number on it.
     
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    clueless

    I am trying to do what teachergroupie advised i.e., searching for material on the web. I checked the spark notes. they did not prove to be helpful for subtest IV although they would be for subtest III. AP books are great for subtest III. I wonder if it is too late to take courses. 21st is just around the corner and the classes must have ended. Does Smiling Teacher know of any classes in the bay area that are still in session?
     
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    Spark notes? Which one are good to get? What ap books are good to look at? It is too late to find a class try Frances Sussna. She's an English tutor 650-283-7955. Excellent tutor.

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    SparkCharts are not quite the same thing as SparkNotes: SparkNotes are the booklets that cover literature the way Cliff Notes do, but SparkCharts are laminated study guides - typically in a big cylindrical wire rack near the test prep books. There's one on speech communication that would be relevant to Subtest IV. Usborne has a kids' book, ACTING AND THEATRE, that's good for drama.
     
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    I just got my scores for the CSETIV. I did not pass. It seems that I do worse everytime I take it. Could you please give me the name of the prep course? This will be the 4th time I am taking it and I am frantic. Terry G.
     
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    Thank you! I thought I was the only one! I failed the creative writing portion, and I was so confident when I wrote my answer.
    I was stunned and have no idea where I went wrong.
    I have taught college level creative writing too.
     
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    Ignatius, what are you seeing on side 2 of your score report? What letters and for which questions?
     
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    AHH Subtest IV

    I took all four at once and failed subtest IV, I looked at the scoring report and apparently I need work in creative writing. Any ideas? What should I study? I am taking it again next week.
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    What letters are you seeing on your score report, Jules?
     
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    I got a check in all the sections on Subtest IV but Creative Writing where I got an "S".
     
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    S is for support. The scorers seem to have liked your choice(s) of things in the sample that need to be fixed, but you may not have given enough evidence. Did you quote from the passage?
     
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    To tell you the truth I don't remember, I took all four tests that one day AND messed up on my answer document and had to fill out some papers so my test would be scored correctly. So what I failed was the piece where you had to edit a piece of writing? I vaguely remember that. So what they wanted were more quotes from the piece to back up my argument?
     
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    That's the likeliest prospect, yes - not only naming what needs to be done but showing where it's needed. But it's also possible that the scorers wanted to know more about why you chose what you chose to correct. Broadly, the Support parameter for CSET exams is about why the answer makes sense in terms of the question and of the field that the question is about.

    My sympathies on having messed up the answer document: that's painful.

    The creative writing piece is generally the last thing in Subtest IV. Most test takers plow through the subtests in the sequence given; if that's true of you, chances are fairly good that it was the last hour or so of testing and you were simply running out of steam.
     
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    Thanks so much for the input. I'll practice that.
    Jules
     
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    English Subtest VI

    I had a horrible score on this part of the exam which I THOUGGHT was the easiest portion. I passed subtest 1 and 3, however I missed subtest 2 by 10 points :(. I am having a hard time studying for section 4....my major was creative writing :/, so I'm completely thrown for a loop... any ideas?....

    oh yes, I'm retaking the test this Sat July 19th :0
     
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    Oh yes they gave me a K for lack of Knowledge on the Creative Writing subject matter!
     

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