CSET-ART

Discussion in 'Single Subject Tests' started by nasimi77, Nov 28, 2006.

  1. joe

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    cset test

    whats the deal on bringing in your own work?
    any cset art guides out there?
     
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    On the Test Guides page for CSET Art, accessible from http://www.cset.nesinc.com, there's a preparation manual - I think it may differ in specifics from one test date to the next, but you can still get a fairly decent idea as to what the procedures are. Bottom line is that the state wants to know your skills in art production are both broad and deep.
     
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    TG, how are you doing over there in San Diego?
     
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    I realize I'm hijacking but I felt after 7 pages and a thread that was unanswered for months it would be somewhat okay... ?
     
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    what do they want?
     
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    Just portfolio samples of your work. Just to show you can actually produce art. Go to the link TG gave you, it should tell you... :)
     
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    joe, you need to show you can do art in several different media and you need to show that you can discuss your own art and your process for producing it.

    'k8r, I'm fine.
     
  8. joe

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    cset website has no info (yet) on personal portfolio requirements.
    i want to know if (like the bead person) im gonna be limited by the fact that i have mostly just graphite and pen drawings and my work is highly conceptual. in addition, i stopped making art a couple of years ago. none of these factors should play a role in determining how i do on the exam!
     
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    I went there about a month ago to check it out and I downloaded 6 pages of requirements for the art CSET exam and portfolio. So I reckon you can find it if you look hard... unfortunately I threw it away so I couldn't give it to you if I wanted. Just how interested are you?

    From what I remember, the portfolio requirements are as I said just to show you produce art. Everyone knows that artists usually choose one or two media to work in. So the graphite and pen & ink drawings ought to do just fine. You aren't required to be an expert. For the exam I hope you have studied widely apart from your classes, because the questions will encompass all aspects of art history, techniques, interpretation, and everything in between. :)
     
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    Good :)
     
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    actually they dont have info on portfolio section- checked a week ago. they say they're working on that. im talking about the things where you have to take pics of your work and so forth. what do you do? how many pics? you bring them in and hold them or what? i only have slides.
     
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    joe, if you've got anything in a different medium - paint, sculpture, something that isn't basically drawing - it might make sense to use it as one of your artworks-not-in-area-of-emphasis.
     
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    I believe you need 8" x 10" prints, but don't quote me on that. What changes in each version of the procedure manual is the specific questions you're supposed to prepare.
     
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    wait a minute:

    i have to spend big $ on fancy 8 X 10's of my work? how many pics needed? i have to write about them or turn them in? i'm confused. if i only have drawings im gonna fail? can i skip that whole section and fail it but still pass the overall test? can the people who took the test in May (several were posting about this) please send me their emails? thanks!
     
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    TG, can't you direct him to the one thread from about a month ago where someone was asking and then found out what was required? Because they gave the information in pretty good detail, that ought to help this one.
     
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    estoy tonta. The thread is this one and the info is on p6, post #59... duhhh.

    You should pm that guy, Joe.
     
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    You write about them on the test, joe.
     
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    sorry if im being confusing...

    okay let me summarize my needs here. you guys are great by the way, and im so lucky to have found this site/thread!

    1) how many people take the cset in art in one room at a time? are you mixed with other subject takers or is it like 5 people taking an art test in the whole room?

    2) whats the deal with photos? can i just bring in junky pics of whatever and then i write about my work? is the idea to find out how i think when i make work or to judge the quality of my work? can i just submit drawings from several yrs ago? does anyone care?

    3) everyone was talking last spring (according to dates on these posts) about taking the test in may/june/sep. so what happened?did everyone pass?

    4) people are saying the infos obscure (i.e. no ques. about michelangelo?). but who cares? how does that create a prob? isnt it just like: heres X painted by Y.now list elements and principles? how does it matter whether you're familiar with the art?

    5) whats the bottom line with prepping? anyone know any prep books out there that ARE on target? the books cset recommends are obscure academic texts that the entire L.A. public library system doesnt even carry

    6) the only thing im not familiar with is the theories of art ed. sounds like that a minor part of the test. can i just blow that off?

    7) what does the test really cover (in laymans terms)? being able to identify how an artist and yourself in your own work use prin. and elements in an artwork? and then a couple of simple drawing exercises?

    that it!

    please help with point by point responses.
    love you guys!
     
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    1) Not likely 5 people, more like as many test takers will fit into the room. Have no idea about whether or not you would be mixed with other subjects but I doubt it.

    2) I wouldn’t bring in junky anything or just don’t go, ‘cause you won’t pass. No one’s going to ask how long ago you did the work I bet. But why don’t you pm that other guy and ask??? or any of the others who took the test?
    You will probably submit with your 8x10 photos of your art the media you used, technique, why you chose that media, ...

    3) You should pm those people and ask.

    4) Yes you will need to know principles. From the sample questions I saw recently and the ones I had on my multiple subjects there isn’t going to be one single “obscure” question. You will need to know a lot about the subject.

    There could well be questions on Michaelangelo, or any other master artist. Might even be some on obscure artists. Each version is different. You should know something about every art period and the artists and techniques they developed, you should know about ancient art periods because they will show you pictures and ask you which period and culture does this represent. You should know what types of media were used to make the object you’re looking at. Pastel? Oil? Woodcut?

    On the essay answer questions there will be pictures of art (painting, sculpture, etc.) and they will ask you to describe the work and critique it in technical terms.

    What do you mean how does it matter whether you are familiar with art? Why do you want an art credential? errr, you are making me so mad. What good would you be if you didn’t know anything about art?

    5) Look at Amazon.com if you can’t find the books you want. You for sure are not going to pass if you don’t know the subject—look at the sample questions. If you like art didn’t you ever check out books on your own? I used to check out 20-30 books every few weeks, and I have a whole collection of books on art. Like if you are interested I don’t even get why you don’t want to know about it!

    6) Theories of art education I wouldn’t blow off. I wouldn’t blow off any of it. Those subject matter tests are nothing like the CBEST, it’s very specific knowledge they are looking for. Also, you will have to answer essay questions where you will outline a lesson plan for whatever they tell you and you will describe how you will teach it.

    7) I’m pretty sure you don’t actually draw at the test site. I don’t know if you submit your portfolio there or mail it to CSET. You should ask the people who have taken the test.

    This is irritating me because you come across as not really caring at all about the subject and I just don’t get it. So I’m sorry for my attitude but at least you’re getting your questions mostly answered.
     
  20. joe

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    dude, youre totally misunderstanding. why get worked up? it sounds like you havent even taken the test from your uncertainty about the bring-in-your-own-work deal.

    i care a lot- why you think i ask so many questions? of course i know about art! in fact i know enough to teach graduate level courses. my question #4 refers to the fact that some posters seem concerned about the obscure art on the test and im trying to understand why it matters if youre not familiar with a particular contemp. artist.

    my somewhat apathetic attitude is a reflection of the fact that like most of the posters here feel, i dont need to prove my know-how with this test. its a nonsense formality. not only am i a master of the subject in most of its forms, but i've been teaching for 10 years!
     

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