CSET: ART Subtest ll

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  1. JFour

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    I am new to this forum but have noticed (teachergroupie) has seemed to be answers most of the questions related to the CSET ART exam. I have taken the second subtest multiple times and the last time missing by just a few points. The feedback for the test is very vague and I am not sure exactly where to improve. My last attempt I received a check mark for the first 3 constructed response questions and a "P" for the fourth. I know this means purpose but not really remembering the question or understanding what they mean by purpose I am having a hard time improving on this. I have a test help book and am trying to understand if I have been getting the multiple choice correct or just choosing the wrong answer again and again. My real question is what do they mean by "purpose" and is there anything else I can do to better my chances? Thanks
     
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    Hugs, JFour.

    According to the test makers, "p" is for Purpose, but another way to look at it is that "p" is for Point, as in getting the point of the question and responding appropriately. Either the core of your answer was incorrect, or your response didn't show off your awareness of why the question matters. I should point out that it's perfectly possible to get something other than checkmark on more than one answer and still pass - and one reason this is possible is that each subtest is passed as a whole: what matters is picking up the necessary 220 scaled points, not hitting a certain mark in multiple choice and another certain mark in constructed response.

    So tell me about how you did on multiple choice, hm?
     
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    I have taken subtest ll 3 times and each time I have received +++ on the overall multiple choice section. I agree if I could have gotten a few more multiple choice correct the "purpose" in question 4 would have been outweighed. I know people have said that 220 out of 300 is just 73% and the multiple choice counts for 70% and the constructed response for 30%, but it seems subjective. The "p" standing for point does help though, but if you don't remember the question because it was a month ago it is tough. Anymore feedback you have would be much appreciated I am working with a test book now to help with my multiple choice selections and time management. Thanks.
     
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    What domains are on this subtest, and how are you scoring in each?
     
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    Attempt #1
    Creative expression ++
    Connections, Relationships, Applications +++
    History and Theories of learning in Art +++
    Overall +++
    Score 200

    Attempt #2
    Creative expression +++
    Connections, Relationships, Applications +++
    History and Theories of learning in Art ++++
    Overall +++
    Score 201

    Attempt #3
    Creative expression ++
    Connections, Relationships, Applications +++
    History and Theories of learning in Art +++
    Overall +++
    Score 216
     
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    Hm. Creative expression seems to be a bit of an issue for you in multiple choice questions. Let me think about this.

    As for constructed response, what is your area of concentration, and what did you submit outside your area of concentration?
     
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    Concentration is sculpture and the breadth I wrote about was acrylic painting.
     
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    Question 4 should be where you discuss your breadth. One can get "p" for insufficient breadth - for instance, an oil painter submitting a drawing for breadth, or a pot-thrower submitting figures for stop-action animation (though the pot-thrower who submits stop-action animation itself would be on less shaky ground) - anyway, that would be a problem with the portfolio itself, and your specialization and breadth are distinct enough that I think that's not the story.

    In the past, have you also gotten "p" on question 4, or what?
     
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    I am not sure how much of this test we can be discussing, I just need to improve my purpose or "point" and time management. Thank you for your help.
     
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    What we can't discuss is actual specific test questions; the concentration and breadth tasks outlined in the Subtest II preparation materials aren't fully "actual specific test questions" without the individual artworks on which they're based. In any case, Pearson itself has made the general format public in the preparation materials. So breathe, please.

    If "p" is generally an issue on question 4 and the portfolio itself shows breadth, here are some common mistakes:

    - Not dealing fully with ALL the parts of a question. Anything that's bulleted in the question needs at least to be waved at in the answer.

    - Forgetting the audience. Unless the question specifies otherwise, you're writing for practicing art teachers who want to know whether you're savvy enough to join the club. Use the terminology of art as you would to fellow art savants who are in a little bit of a hurry and want the insiders' memo.

    - Not allowing the breadth response to highlight one's breadth. Questions 3 and 4 exist as different questions for a reason. An oils specialist whose breadth area is ceramics COULD focus on issues raised by tools and techniques for applying glazes, but that's still fairly painterly: that person will show off breadth more effectively by focusing on the potting and/or the issues raised by working in three dimensions.

    Does that help?
     
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    In the example on the CSET ART 141 subtest II manual it gives the example of a painter WITH a charcoal drawing in the breadth plus ceramics and digital art as an example of sufficient breadth. This would be acceptable according to the CTC's own example.
     
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    True, but let me gently point out that the question that JFour was asking wasn't about breadth in terms of what to submit in the portfolio: JFour's portfolio had already been accepted. The issue here has to do with test taking: to be precise, with responding to Question 4 so as to highlight rather than obscure one's breadth, by focusing on techniques that don't overlap with the techniques one uses in one's area of concentration. (Does this mean one's Question 4 response should contain no mention of any breadth technique that overlaps with a concentration technique? Not at all. But the point of the question is to elicit a discussion that shows breadth - that is, difference from concentration - so the response should begin with and dwell on contrasts before it touches on comparison.
     
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    Thank you for clarifying I thought you were saying you couldn't include it at all that worried me because I had a similar variety of submissions. I chose to write about digital photography instead of drawing because it allowed for discussing technical aspects of using a camera/lens/software that are completely different from painting
     
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