Considering Leaving my Title 1 School

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  1. Ms.Holyoke

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    I'm surprised you would need behavioral incentives like that in a private school...
     
  2. Ms.Holyoke

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    I think that the kids are better behaved for them. Most of the teachers in my school are great and hard working.
     
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    This is correct. I teach in a very affluent suburban school and even in that environment there are many behavior issues that I know won't be addressed. So I pick my battles. I'm in my 14th year...and the issues have lessened in some ways. In general, however, I notice that more and more, the "inmates run the asylum," so to speak. I think it's partly a culture shift, unfortunately.

    *English teachers: am I using too many commas??
     
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    NOOOOOOOOO a student shouldn't be rewarded for what is essentially "expected" behavior! I totally get why you would do this, but I was really uncomfortable reading that!
     
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    Once per quarter is not too pricey and I only spend ~$250/year; plus, I only give out 5 awards across all of my periods.

    Basically, I give gift cards to the following 5 students: 1) the student who most improves behavior wise, 2) the student who doesn’t talk out of turn and doesn’t interrupt, 3) the student who actively encourages others, 4) the student who is most polite to myself and others, and 5) the student who volunteers and helps others to succeed.

    I don’t let my students know my metric for selecting who wins and I try to switch it up so it’s not always the same 5 students who win each quarter, though a few sometimes do win more than once.
     
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    Kids of all backgrounds misbehave. It’s not specific to any social class. And my high school is 60% middle class/upper class (mostly middle) and 40% working class, on average.
     
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    Sure, but I do it because I want to. It also helps some of the problem students because they have something to look forward to, at least.

    It made you really uncomfortable? Really?
     
  8. Ms.Holyoke

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    I went to the interview of the school in the same district that I student taught in. The school seemed fine but the job is for THREE grade levels (6th, 7th, and 8th). I received a demo for this week but I think I'll turn it down...I do not want to plan for 3 grade levels!!
     
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    It is just really surprising that you would need these types of behavioral incentives. I haven't heard of anything like it + it would be frowned upon in my school.

    In my experience, low-income schools generally have more behavioral issues as do "lower" students. In my school, behavior is excellent in the pre-AP and honors classes and behavior is more challenging in the college level and inclusion classes.
     
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    To be fair, I never said I *need* these behavioral incentives. I do it because I like rewarding certain students for doing the right thing even when they are not asked to. Also, I think it is important to reward and recognize students other than just those who have the highest grades. This is one way of doing that. Plus, I think it’s only fair because I get cash gifts and gift cards from students all the time.

    And, no offense, but I would not be too concerned if a practice I did were frowned upon in my school so long as it was moral and legal. I think it’s equally valid that you don’t do this, but that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t because you or others don’t.
     
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    Sometimes it’s nice to get some acknowledgement even if you are doing what is ‘expected’. It applies to adults and students. We thank our parents on Mother’s Day or Father’s Day or Parent Day for being good parents, and buy them gifts or a meal, even though it is an expectation that our parents should be good parents. Our students buy us gifts to thank us for being good teachers and mentors, even though we get paid to do so and they expect it from us. It feels nice and appreciated to get that acknowledgement. So personally, I don’t see a problem with rewarding students with something that they want, for doing something that is expected, lesson after lesson, day after day, month after month. As long as it’s above board and transparent.
     
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    :yeahthat: Right on!
     
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    At the first nanosecond of reading about the gift cards, I was stunned.

    Then again, I grew up with teachers doing similar things on occasion and I know plenty of teachers who love prize boxes (which I actually imagine paying for adds up to at least if not more of what @futuremathsprof is spending on gift cards).

    It doesn't fit my philosophy, but they're not pricey gift cards nor does it sound like an everyday thing.

    Do your thing.
     
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    Thanks for your understanding and support. :)
     
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    I have applied to several schools and I taught some demo lessons on Friday. One of the jobs is for 6th grade math in the district that I student taught in. I taught a good lesson with fraction tiles which I think they liked. They want to move forward with checking references, so it seems positive but you can never be sure.

    The school is newly renovated and seems really nice. The class sizes are small and the people seem really nice. I would really love to not have classes of 30+ next year. It is a tough district to work in still. The salary is really, really good though. I would make about 11K more next year. I spoke with my mentor at my school and she said that it is not uncommon for people to leave my district/school. A lot of people are unhappy with the administration, etc.

    I would also love to join a school with a middle school team, which this school has.
     
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    Good luck! Do what your heart tells you.
     
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    Is that what your school is telling you? Usually, suburbs pay a lot better than urban schools. I've lived in several urban cores around the country (NYC, ATL, SF, to name a few) and the burbs always paid better. It's common knowledge they will tell you otherwise, not expecting you to look up the salaries.


    $11K more in a better district? told ya so :blush: I hope it goes well and you are offered the position!
     

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