Christian school advice

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  1. 3Sons

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    You know, there's not a lot of hard data on it.

    But consider for a moment what the high-profile cases are, and the response to them. There's rarely any serious repercussions, and the school usually backs the teacher. A few years back, a social studies teacher in NJ was telling his students that evolution was false and non Christian students were going to H, and the school first tried to claim the student was lying, then tried to discipline the student because he had taped it. It's unknown if the teacher received any punishment, but he continued to work at the school for years.

    This year, a school in Alabama had been contacted by the FFRF because they're holding prayers over the school intercom in the morning. The school is refusing to abandon the practice. And it's gone on for years.

    Since much less could constitute a violation, I'm sure there's a lot occurring that simply isn't reported, especially since a lot of parents may not want to face repercussions from the community, a lot of parents and teachers won't be sure of what constitutes a violation and what doesn't, and some of the time the parents may be happy with the illegal proselytizing. If 75% of parents' response to harassment were happiness that the teacher was taking an interest in their child, how many headlines did you think we'd see, and do you think harassment would decrease or increase?
     
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    We used to have a teacher who gave bible verses to a former principal to read over the intercom every morning. Now in meetings we love discussing rules and regulations except those have pose an "inconvenience".

    We also had a guest speaker who told some students that there are three tenets to success and the first is accepting Jesus. Well, first off, the principal is supposed have a script of what the speaker will say, second the principal was supposed to immediately address the issue right on the spot with the speaker. Must have been a while since she had taken school law.
    This is legal as long as it's not during instructional time which it was.
     
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    Tell them that harassment can make people turn away from God.
     
  4. Backroads

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    With all due respect, it still sounds like speculation. Do you think the vast majority of Christian teachers and administration are proselyting?

    That being said, I'm a firm believer in keeping these things separate. By all means, let issues be tackled.
     
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    I was raised Catholic and have never heard of a married bishop.
    From Wiki: The Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Catholic Churches, while allowing married men to be ordained, do not allow clerical marriage after ordination. Their parish priests are most often married, but must marry before becoming ordained as priests—although they can get married while still attending the seminary. However, married priests in these Churches cannot be further ordained as bishops.


     
  6. 3Sons

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    No I think a minority of Christian teachers engage in it. But it doesn't have to be a majority to be fairly prevalent. A majority of students probably don't engage in bullying and harassment, but that doesn't mean there's a school in the country where it doesn't happen.

    When things like reading bible verses over the loudspeaker, coaches baptizing students are a team practice, and inviting guests in who tell students they need to accept Jesus go unchallenged for years and then when they are challenged, the school fights it rather than recognizing the law? I don't think it's very speculative to say that there are lesser violations that are never caught.
     
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    I've seen a teacher tell her students to join hands so they could pray, another places bible verses on her exams, but of course, the principals are probably of the same faith so they say nothing.
     
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  9. 3Sons

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    @futuremathsprof ,
    This is basically spam -- the link leads to a particularly annoying ad website (the kind where they push you to wait, and wait, and wait through a video before telling you what it is), and it's posted by a new user and has nothing to do with the topic of the post. That said, I *am* a pretty strong proponent of parents teaching their children to read (and basic calculations, for that matter), having done it myself.
     
  10. Aces

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    Yeah he's "reporting" it by tagging the mods. We don't have a report button.
     
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  11. TeacherGroupie

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    "Tagging" the mods to report is fine. Quoting the problematic language is itself problematic; next time, please just mention post #xxx (use the post number in the lower right corner of the post, next to "Like"). I'll delete the quotation.
     
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  12. futuremathsprof

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    Yes, ma’am.
     
  13. 3Sons

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    Okay, but... I see "report" at the bottom of every post (next to the time); does that not work?
     
  14. Aces

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    Some people don't have that button but if you have it, it should work.
     
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