Certification Help

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  1. stephk2689

    stephk2689 Rookie

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    I am a Third Grade teacher in an independent school in New Jersey. I just received my CE and am so happy because it was such a long an annoying process with the DOE. I am at a cross roads right now because my boss is saying that I need my Standard certificate to continue on in my position. I am upset because in our employee handbook it clearly states that you may have your CE, CEAS, or Standard certificate in order to be a head teacher at my school. So I don't understand why I need to get my Standard cert. Can someone explain?

    I am planning on calling her to discuss what the handbook says, but if it turns out that I do need to get my Standard and begin the PTP program...then I think I need some advice.

    Can anyone tell me about their experience in the PTP program, and what the classes were like? How painful is my year of working/going back to school really going to be?

    I'm also upset because it looks like the classes you have to take are just like the ones I took in college. (I completed my education classes but never received my certification...long story.) Is there a way for me to get out of having to take these classes?

    I am also interested in going to graduate school next fall. Is there a way for me to get my Standard certificate through graduate school? I would rather work on my masters while getting my certificate than taking these classes at a community college.

    Thank you!
     
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    I am guessing that you are going alternate route through the county colleges. If you haven't actually started the classes you might consider CESP through Rutgers. Cheaper, the classes are in cohorts and hands on. You can find it online. You don't have to have your standard license, I am sure, but you must be enrolled in an AR program so that they can sign you up for the provisional license. The paper work is done pretty much on their end, and any new teacher would still have a provisional year, even with a degree. You can go to graduate school next fall, but you will not get a standard certificate without a provisional license first, 30 weeks, with the mandated evaluations. If you are going AR, make sure you specify you want the license for public schools. If you get the license for a charter school, you can't use it to teach in any public school, so we pretty much have a substandard license and a standard license you can take anywhere. I doubt that NJ will word it that way, but that is the reality.

    Good luck.
     
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    Thank you so much! Yes, I am going AR. So if I enter the PTP this fall, would I be able to get a standard certificate in graduate school for the following fall? I will be sure to specify about the public school standard license. Thanks for the tip!
     
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    If you complete the 30 weeks and all of the evaluations are done at the correct time, yes, your CE will go to a standard certificate from being provisional. You must, however, successfully complete the AR program you are enrolled in. I used the Rutgers program because if is cheapest, I had no desire to pay big bucks to earn graduate credit at a university I would never want to attend, and if I was going to get a masters, I would want it to be the road of my choosing. I earned my standard certificate in my content area, and when I did go after my masters it was in a direction that I didn't see coming. To me, the masters degree makes the most sense when you have enough experience to know what truly interests you and what you really want to know more about. To pursue it just to say you have it seems like a waste of time, personally. If you pursue it because now that you are teaching you have discovered something that is very interesting, something vital, that will make you a better teacher every day of your life, well, that is how it is supposed to work. It should be an overwhelming thirst for that specific knowledge, not just a ledger book of credits that mean nothing to you.

    When you start your provisional teaching year, you will note that there are specific times that evaluations are done. If your timeline gets messed up, you could end up not completing it in a single academic year. In that case, even though you worked the year, you might still need the last evaluation, meaning that you would be in the provisional program for another semester. There is the way it should work, and the reality of what happens. Just thought you should know that, in the spirit of full disclosure. Any additional CE's that you happen to have will become standard when that provisional becomes standard. So if I have a provisional in elementary, but also have a CE in MS ELA, and a CE in Chemistry, when the elementary is completed for the 30 weeks and all evaluations, all of those will become standard at the same time. However, if your evaluations get off schedule and you don't finish the program in 30 weeks, the additional CE's are stuck in limbo too.

    Hope that helps.

    As far as being stressed that year of doing everything, yes, you will be, but in my program it was quite doable. Not at all sure about going through the county colleges program.

    Good luck.
     

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